Live Behind The Veil

When Everything is Shaken – Finding a Real Relationship With God


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Summary
This conversation explores how God allows seasons of shaking, testing, and even loss to move believers beyond dependence on security and into a deep, personal relationship with Him. Through trials, God reveals what is truly in the heart and draws His people into a genuine, Spirit-led walk where they hear His voice, know Him intimately, and remain steadfast regardless of circumstances.
Show Notes
1. Recognizing the Voice of God
  • There is a clear difference between hearing words spoken intellectually and hearing words spoken by the Spirit.
  • A true relationship with God brings discernment—believers recognize when something is not from Him.
  • God is raising sensitivity to His voice and presence.

2. The Need for a Firm Spiritual Foundation
  • Even a slight deviation from the Lord can lead away from truth.
  • A consistent focus on God is essential to stay aligned with Him.
  • The relationship with God is ongoing—there is always “more.”

3. Pursuing God with the Whole Heart
  • The desire to fully know God goes beyond words—it requires lived experience.
  • True pursuit brings transformation, not just understanding.
  • “Where the rubber meets the road” is in daily walking it out.

4. Letting Go of False Security
  • Many pursue God out of a need for security rather than relationship.
  • God often removes those securities to reveal Himself.
  • True knowing of God comes when natural supports are stripped away.

5. The Journey of Job: Testing and Revelation
  • Job’s life illustrates how God allows testing to reveal genuine faith.
  • The removal of protection exposed the depth of Job’s relationship with God.
  • Through devastation, Job encountered a deeper revelation of God.

6. Testing Produces Endurance and Dedication
  • Trials develop endurance, faith, and unwavering commitment.
  • God uses testing to form something real and lasting in believers.
  • True devotion is proven when everything else is shaken.

7. Revelation Comes Through Relationship
  • God reveals Himself more deeply through seasons of testing.
  • Familiar words take on new meaning after experience with God.
  • The foundation of the Body of Christ is revelation from the Father—not knowledge alone.

8. Hearing God Personally
  • Christianity is not meant to be secondhand—it is relational and direct.
  • Each believer must hear God personally.
  • The goal is a real, living relationship with Him.

Quotes
  • “You recognize immediately—that’s not God—when it’s not spoken by the Spirit.”
  • “Without that foundation in the Lord, everything can be just slightly off.”
  • “We’re running after Him—we want to know Him with our whole being.”
  • “God is not about providing security—He removes it so we can know Him.”
  • “Only when everything is shaken do we discover what’s really in our hearts.”
  • “Job would go through anything—but he would not reject God.”
  • “Revelation comes alive through the experience of walking through the test.”
  • “We have to hear from God—it has to be real.”

Scriptural References
  • Job – The testing of Job and his deeper revelation of God
  • Romans 5(3–4) Tribulation produces perseverance, character, and hope
  • Hebrews 12 (26–27) Everything that can be shaken will be shaken
  • Matthew 16 (16–18) Revelation from the Father as the foundation of the Church
  • James 1 (2–4) Testing of faith produces endurance
  • Philippians 3 (10) “That I may know Him…”

Takeaway
God allows everything that can be shaken to be shaken—not to destroy us, but to remove false security and bring us into a real, unshakable relationship with Him. In the end, it’s not about what we have, what we know, or what we rely on—it’s about truly knowing God and hearing His voice for ourselves.
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