The Ritual House host, Tova Leibovic Douglas and guest, Mustafa Zeno have a conversation as dear friends about ritual and what to do when life is hard and painful. They touch on the current horrific situation in Israel and Gaza as well as Islam and Judaism.

Mustafa Zeno is a documentary filmmaker. He is Muslim and Syrian. You can find more: www.rugandvase.com

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