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Today the guys are sitting down to talk about a issue we've covered a lot recently. Today we are discussing when leaders (specifically church leaders) fall. We a specifically talking about the controversy of Mars Hill Church. We talk about how leaders can avoid failure as well as analyze what lead to their fall.

As always we are drinking another greay coffee, today's is from Joffrey's Coffee and Tea Company. Joffrey's is the official Disney Parks coffee. We are drinking the Mickey mouse classic blend and its really good. If yo want to order some you can of course find them all over Disney Parks or you can go to joffreys.com

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