In this episode of Trail Talks, Kelly and Terra are joined by counselor Jill Defayette for a powerful conversation on leadership addiction. 🎯

What happens when your title becomes your identity? When work replaces purpose? When control feels safer than connection?

Together, they unpack the psychology behind workaholism, toxic leadership, identity loss, burnout, and why some leaders struggle to step away. They also share practical tools to help leaders build healthier identities beyond the role. 🌱

Topics include:
🔹 Leadership addiction explained
🔹 Workaholism vs purpose-driven work
🔹 Toxic leadership patterns
🔹 Identity outside your job title
🔹 Why control becomes addictive
🔹 Tools for healthier leadership

🎧 If you’ve ever tied your worth to productivity, this one is for you. 

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