Episode Summary

In this episode of Rooted Conversations, Mitch sits down with Trisha Wolfe, a therapist, educator, and Ph.D. candidate researching the role of the nervous system in treating and preventing burnout. Known for her viral content on emotional regulation and intellectualization, Trisha brings clarity to the complex intersection of trauma, the brain, and the body.

Together, Mitch and Trisha explore what it means to think your way to safety, how intellectualization becomes both a superpower and a survival strategy, and what it takes to reestablish real connection with your body. They unpack why so many high-functioning, self-aware people get “stuck” in therapy, the problem with black-and-white healing frameworks, and how true nervous system regulation requires a balance of top-down and bottom-up approaches.

If you’ve ever tried to fix or figure out your healing and ended up feeling worse, this conversation will show you why—and how to shift toward a more embodied, compassionate relationship with yourself.

Timestamps

• 0:00 – 4:00 | Mitch’s introduction: discovering Trisha’s work and the “Nope” moment
• 4:00 – 10:00 | Trisha’s story: from finance to somatic therapy and the awakening of the body
• 10:00 – 17:00 | Understanding intellectualization as both strength and protection
• 17:00 – 24:00 | How childhood safety strategies evolve into adult overthinking patterns
• 24:00 – 32:00 | Why therapists often miss intellectualizers—and how therapy can re-traumatize
• 32:00 – 40:00 | Observation as the foundation of healing and neuroplastic change
• 40:00 – 52:00 | The ladder of activation: functional freeze, fawn, and sympathetic charge
• 52:00 – 1:02:00 | Coming out of freeze: safety, titration, and building new neural roadways
• 1:02:00 – 1:10:00 | The quantum mirror of therapy and how observation changes the outcome
• 1:10:00 – 1:20:00 | Top-down vs. bottom-up work: bridging cognitive and somatic healing
• 1:20:00 – 1:30:00 | Why black-and-white healing sells but nuanced healing sustains
• 1:30:00 – 1:40:00 | Mitch and Trisha on trust, self-compassion, and becoming your own medicine

About Trisha Wolfe

Trisha Wolfe is a therapist, educator, speaker, and researcher who specializes in complex trauma. She’s currently completing her Ph.D. research on the role of the nervous system in treating and preventing burnout. Trisha shares free nervous system education and trauma-informed insights across Instagram, TikTok, and Substack, helping thousands of people understand their patterns and reconnect to safety.

Follow Trisha: 📱 Instagram & TikTok: @thetrishawolfe 📰 Substack: trishawolfe.substack.com