Latter Day Struggles

Episode 112: When Past and Present Prophets Contradict One Another & Crunch up Water Bottles

04.14.2023 - By Valerie HamakerPlay

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Join Val and Nathan in this episode where they respond to the address recently given in April 2023 general conference by Allen D Haynie, titled “A Living Prophet for our Day”. 

Specific points from this address explored:

The rule-of-thumb suggested privileging current prophetic counsel over past prophetic counsel when contradictions surface

Parents who teach and model by example the importance of personal discernment over strict compliance to church authorities will inevitably negatively impact their children's spirituality, and

Exact obedience to the prophet protects us from a hostile and dangerous world

Val and Nathan discuss troubling nature of the tactic of fear used to motivate obedience throughout this address. They also discuss the problematic nature of the “water bottle crushing” example as one that might suggest compliance to the inessential [or nonsensical] as a new form of higher law. 

They explore how the "water bottle crushing" antidote also invites inappropriate scrutiny upon a fellow mortal and exacerbates the perceived power differential that inhibits both leaders and constituents from living healthy, autonomous lives in respectful support of one another.

This entire episode calls for the need for personal discernment as the fundamental guiding principle in guiding all of our choices in our discipleship of Jesus Christ.

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