The Church Renewal Podcast

When Pastors Retire: Preparing for the Coming Leadership Crisis in Churches: A Conversation with Dr. Tom Harris (Part 3)


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Dr. Tom Harris, President of Interim Pastor Ministries returns for the final installment of our three-part conversation, delivering powerful insights into the universal challenges facing churches in transition. Drawing from decades of experience, Tom identifies two critical weaknesses that consistently plague congregations: inadequate leadership development and the abandonment of evangelism.

The leadership development crisis stems from a theological education system that fails to equip pastors with mentorship skills. Tom shares a compelling story of a pastor who transformed his church through intentional leadership development—hosting weekly mentorship breakfasts with emerging leaders over decades. This systematic approach created a rich pipeline of capable leaders who strengthened every aspect of church ministry. Without such intentionality, churches remain perpetually understaffed with qualified leaders who understand their mission.

Perhaps most alarming is Tom's sobering assessment of the pastoral recruitment crisis. Where theological schools once had 100 candidates for every church opening, that pipeline has diminished drastically. With 50% of current pastors retiring within five years across some denominations, we're approaching a leadership vacuum that threatens church sustainability. Youth ministry positions already go unfilled, signaling deeper problems upstream in ministerial calling and preparation.

Tom introduces his book outlining eight strategic actions churches can take to thrive during transitions, emphasizing that churches who complete intentional transition work become significantly more attractive to the shrinking pool of pastoral candidates. Despite these challenges, the conversation concludes with hope—reminding listeners that Jesus deeply loves his bride, even in her brokenness, and continues calling and equipping leaders to guide her forward. Connect with Interim Pastor Ministry at interimpastors.com or reach out to Flourish Coaching to discover how strategic transitional leadership can transform your church's transition into an opportunity for renewed mission and growth.

Part 1 of our conversation with Dr. Harris

Part 2 of our conversation with Tom

"Soaring Between Pastors: 8 Actions to Thrive During A Pastoral Transition" by Dr. Tom Harris


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