Climbing the corporate ladder feels safe… until it vanishes beneath you.

Corporate America is supposed to be the stable, responsible path. The one that comes with health insurance, promotions, and some kind of safety net. But more and more, people are finding that safety net has holes... and that the system doesn’t always catch you when you fall.

This week, I sat down with my friend Mandy Ogulnick to talk about what it’s really like to get laid off twice and then choose a completely different path: one that isn’t tied to titles or LinkedIn announcements.

We talk about:

💼 What it’s like to be laid off from two different corporate jobs

🍷 Why she chose service industry work—and how it gave her peace

💞 Letting go of shame and rewriting what success looks like

🗺️ Navigating the pressure to have a “big plan”

If you’ve ever felt like you did everything “right” and it still didn’t work out—this one’s for you.

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