Risky Conversations with Jamie Lee

When the Goalposts Keep Moving: A Conversation on Systemic Exclusion with Dr. Cristina Alcalde and Jamie Lee


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When I sat down to record this conversation with M. Cristina Alcalde, Ph.D., ACC, last December, institutional biases hadn't yet turned as blatantly fatal as they have in the aftermath of Operation Metro Surge.

But truth be told, systemic exclusion leading to institutional violence has never been news for BIPOC and immigrants.

The endlessly "moving goalposts" is just one of many ways BIPOC professionals experience institutional bias in the workplace.

My guest Dr. Cristina Alcalde is an anthropologist, author, leadership coach, and professor of Global and Intercultural Studies at Miami University in Ohio.

In this episode, we explored: 

  • Beyond "Us vs. Them": Why addressing institutional whiteness isn't about attacking people, but about fixing the hidden systems that block everyone from equity.
  • The "Illusion Bubble": Why the status quo feels so "natural" to some, while creating moving goalposts for high-achieving women of color.
  • Feminist Curiosity: How to stop being "complicit" and start asking the risky question: "Who actually benefits from the status quo?" 
  • Agency in the Heavy Moments: Navigating institutional hate while holding onto our internal authority and resistance.
  • Connecting the Dots: How historical exclusions—like redlining—continue to build the workplace barriers we see today.

Mentioned in this episode: 

  • Connect with Dr. Cristina Alcalde on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-cristina-alcalde-ph-d-24b71b8b/
  • Dr. Cristina Alcalde's Faculty Webpage: https://miamioh.edu/profiles/cas/m-cristina-alcalde.html
  • Dr. Cristina Alcalde's Website: https://www.crisalcalde.com/
  • Donate to Support our St. Paul Public Schools Community Fund https://my.cheddarup.com/c/support-our-st-paul-public-schools-community/items
  • Learn more about Jamie's Executive Coaching Services: https://www.jamieleecoach.com/apply


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