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Pablo and Vanessa are discussing what happens when the world stops feeling solid and the answers you used to rely on don't hold the same weight anymore. From questioning belief systems to uncertainty about the future and the quiet disconnection that can come with success, this conversation explores what it's like when the "maps" no longer work. Instead of rushing to replace them, they slow down and look at what's actually happening underneath - the instability, the searching, and the tendency to look outside ourselves for something to hold onto. This episode brings it back to what's here, and what it takes to stay grounded when everything around you feels like it's shifting. 

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