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Does your job feel like it's slowly becoming the whole of who you are? When someone asks what you do, does your answer make you stand a little taller — or quietly shrink? You're not alone. And you might be living inside a story about work that isn't serving you well.
This week, Mike Harris — former professional footballer, PE teacher, and now full-time gardener — brings an honest and surprisingly liberating look at what the Bible actually says about work, identity, and who we're really doing it all for.
What We ExploreMike's journey through several careers gives him real credibility here. He knows what it's like to introduce yourself as a footballer before you even say your name — and then feel the quiet shame when that's gone. He also knows what it's like to leave a secure job because you've decided God is your provider. This conversation draws on all of it.
[05:00] Two Stories Culture Tells Us About WorkMike identifies two narratives most of us unconsciously absorb. The first is the weekend warrior idea — work is just what you do to fund the good bits. The problem is you never have quite enough, so the chase never ends. The second is more insidious: your job is your identity. What you do is who you are.
"I would introduce myself as a footballer before I told people my name. When that ended, I felt the embarrassment of being 'just a student.' My job had become part of my identity."What we explore:
Key takeaway: The story you think you're living in determines how you see your work.
[15:00] Work Before the FallOne of the most grounding ideas in Mike's talk: work was not a consequence of the fall. It was there from the beginning. God created order out of chaos — the Hebrew tohu vohu, wild and waste — and then placed humans in the garden to continue that work.
"Work is not the problem. It's the toil that was the result."What we explore:
Key takeaway: The hope isn't to escape work. It's to one day work without the toil.
[19:00] Working for an Audience of OneIf work was designed by God and we bear his image before we've done a single day's work — what does that mean for how we approach it? Mike argues we work for an audience of one, and that this is genuinely freeing.
"Work does not appease God, but it can bring him glory."What we explore:
Key takeaway: You bear God's image before you've done a thing. Your worth isn't in your output.
[26:47] Conversation StreetThe discussion after Mike's talk got honest quickly. Will shared that he's leaving his job on Tuesday — and unpacked the pressure of feeling like you should be "fulfilling your potential" through a career. Sonia shared from the community chat that being medically retired had cost her her identity for a long time. And Matt brought a story about prayer, provision, and what happened when he stopped treating his employer as his provider.
"I think it's a lie to believe you're not enslaved to anything. We get to choose what we are enslaved to. I've just chosen to enslave myself to God." — Mike HarrisCommunity wisdom:
Key takeaway: We all choose what we're enslaved to. The question is whether we're choosing wisely.
About Mike HarrisMike Harris is a former professional footballer and PE teacher who spent 15 years as head of department at a Catholic comprehensive school. After leaving due to work-related stress, he retrained as a gardener — a decision he says only made sense because he genuinely trusted that God was his provider. He now brings both practical experience and theological reflection to questions about work, vocation, and what it means to do things well.
For more info, please visit https://crowd.church/talks/when-work-feels-like-all-you-are
By Crowd ChurchDoes your job feel like it's slowly becoming the whole of who you are? When someone asks what you do, does your answer make you stand a little taller — or quietly shrink? You're not alone. And you might be living inside a story about work that isn't serving you well.
This week, Mike Harris — former professional footballer, PE teacher, and now full-time gardener — brings an honest and surprisingly liberating look at what the Bible actually says about work, identity, and who we're really doing it all for.
What We ExploreMike's journey through several careers gives him real credibility here. He knows what it's like to introduce yourself as a footballer before you even say your name — and then feel the quiet shame when that's gone. He also knows what it's like to leave a secure job because you've decided God is your provider. This conversation draws on all of it.
[05:00] Two Stories Culture Tells Us About WorkMike identifies two narratives most of us unconsciously absorb. The first is the weekend warrior idea — work is just what you do to fund the good bits. The problem is you never have quite enough, so the chase never ends. The second is more insidious: your job is your identity. What you do is who you are.
"I would introduce myself as a footballer before I told people my name. When that ended, I felt the embarrassment of being 'just a student.' My job had become part of my identity."What we explore:
Key takeaway: The story you think you're living in determines how you see your work.
[15:00] Work Before the FallOne of the most grounding ideas in Mike's talk: work was not a consequence of the fall. It was there from the beginning. God created order out of chaos — the Hebrew tohu vohu, wild and waste — and then placed humans in the garden to continue that work.
"Work is not the problem. It's the toil that was the result."What we explore:
Key takeaway: The hope isn't to escape work. It's to one day work without the toil.
[19:00] Working for an Audience of OneIf work was designed by God and we bear his image before we've done a single day's work — what does that mean for how we approach it? Mike argues we work for an audience of one, and that this is genuinely freeing.
"Work does not appease God, but it can bring him glory."What we explore:
Key takeaway: You bear God's image before you've done a thing. Your worth isn't in your output.
[26:47] Conversation StreetThe discussion after Mike's talk got honest quickly. Will shared that he's leaving his job on Tuesday — and unpacked the pressure of feeling like you should be "fulfilling your potential" through a career. Sonia shared from the community chat that being medically retired had cost her her identity for a long time. And Matt brought a story about prayer, provision, and what happened when he stopped treating his employer as his provider.
"I think it's a lie to believe you're not enslaved to anything. We get to choose what we are enslaved to. I've just chosen to enslave myself to God." — Mike HarrisCommunity wisdom:
Key takeaway: We all choose what we're enslaved to. The question is whether we're choosing wisely.
About Mike HarrisMike Harris is a former professional footballer and PE teacher who spent 15 years as head of department at a Catholic comprehensive school. After leaving due to work-related stress, he retrained as a gardener — a decision he says only made sense because he genuinely trusted that God was his provider. He now brings both practical experience and theological reflection to questions about work, vocation, and what it means to do things well.
For more info, please visit https://crowd.church/talks/when-work-feels-like-all-you-are