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How do you honour difficult parents? What does biblical respect look like when your mum won't accept you're an adult, or your dad's choices have caused genuine hurt?
Jenny Mariner brings twelve years of teaching teenagers and raising two young children to this honest exploration of one of the Bible's most challenging commands. She unpacks the crucial difference between childhood obedience (temporary) and honour (permanent), offering practical wisdom for navigating complicated family dynamics with grace.
In this conversation, we explore:
Jenny shares a powerful story from her teaching years about a student who wouldn't obey anyone, constantly wandering corridors and disrupting others.
"This child is not learning how to function in society. That is what learning obedience when you are young is about - none of us get to do whatever we want all the time."What we discover:
Key takeaway: Obedience isn't about crushing personality - it's about learning that healthy societies need structure.
[08:00] The Critical Shift - Obedience to HonourJenny makes the crucial distinction many of us miss about what changes when we become adults.
"The overall key point in a nutshell is that obedience is important in childhood and honour remains a permanent obligation throughout our lives - whatever the dynamics in your family."Understanding the difference:
Key takeaway: You don't have to obey your parents as an adult, but you're still called to honour them.
Jenny gets practical about what honouring parents means in everyday life.
"Honouring in the Bible is about treating someone with proper respect and value. It's about saying, you are my parent. You birthed me, you raised me. You did your best, even if actually your best was inadequate."Practical ways to honour:
Key takeaway: Honour is active, not passive - it requires intentional choices about how we treat our parents.
Jenny challenges the false idea that honouring means having no boundaries.
"Despite everything I've said about honour and communication and respect and care, it is okay, it's biblical to have healthy boundaries."Real talk about boundaries:
Key takeaway: Boundaries aren't dishonoring - they're about creating space for genuine relationship.
The conversation explores what honouring looks like when life gets busy.
"One of the things my mum has said to me is like, you are always in such a rush to have time to hear me. I've tried to be really intentional - actually I value her and I want her to know that."Practical wisdom:
Key takeaway: Honouring parents includes actually making time for them, not just fitting them in when convenient.
A comment raised the common scenario: constantly critical, boundary-crossing parents who drain you emotionally.
Matt Edmundson responded:
"Honour doesn't mean unlimited access to you or letting someone repeatedly hurt you. I think sometimes honouring is actually establishing really good boundaries and sticking with them."Jenny added from experience:
Key takeaway: Your own healing journey directly impacts your ability to maintain healthy boundaries with grace.
Jenny was unequivocal about keeping yourself safe.
"You definitely have to keep yourself safe. There isn't anything that would suggest otherwise in scripture. Worst case scenario would be no contact at all."Difficult truths:
Matt added crucial perspective about reporting abuse - it needs to stop, not just for you but potentially for others.
Key takeaway: Honouring doesn't mean exposing yourself to ongoing harm. Sometimes the boundary has to be absolute.
Jenny shared about a friend whose father disappeared for twenty years then reappeared.
"It was interesting that he had just done enough forgiving that he was able to handle his dad reappearing on the scene. He'd done the business to deal with that rather than just sitting in the resentment."Hope for absence:
Key takeaway: It's okay if honouring an absent parent doesn't look like much - but forgiveness work matters regardless.
Matt and Dan both reflected on how their perspective shifted dramatically.
Matt shared:
"I didn't really understand what mum and dad went through as parents until I became a parent. I was a lot more empathetic to some of the situations they faced. My respect and my admiration for my parents grew when I became a parent myself."Dan agreed:
"You think before you're a parent that you are tired, that you have lots of things to do. And then you become a parent, you go, 'No, I wasn't tired and I had nothing to do.' It's that stark."Key takeaway: Parenting gives you empathy for what your parents faced that you simply couldn't understand before.
Jenny's most powerful moment came when she talked about her sister desperately wanting their parents to change.
"I have learned some peace, which I feel is God-given peace from accepting my parents' limits. They're not beyond change, but it's unlikely. I can have more peace if I say, 'This is how they currently are. How do I honour and respect them? What are the healthy boundaries? What can I do within the current scenario rather than rallying against it to change all the time?'"This isn't giving up - it's finding peace in reality rather than constant frustration.
By Crowd ChurchHow do you honour difficult parents? What does biblical respect look like when your mum won't accept you're an adult, or your dad's choices have caused genuine hurt?
Jenny Mariner brings twelve years of teaching teenagers and raising two young children to this honest exploration of one of the Bible's most challenging commands. She unpacks the crucial difference between childhood obedience (temporary) and honour (permanent), offering practical wisdom for navigating complicated family dynamics with grace.
In this conversation, we explore:
Jenny shares a powerful story from her teaching years about a student who wouldn't obey anyone, constantly wandering corridors and disrupting others.
"This child is not learning how to function in society. That is what learning obedience when you are young is about - none of us get to do whatever we want all the time."What we discover:
Key takeaway: Obedience isn't about crushing personality - it's about learning that healthy societies need structure.
[08:00] The Critical Shift - Obedience to HonourJenny makes the crucial distinction many of us miss about what changes when we become adults.
"The overall key point in a nutshell is that obedience is important in childhood and honour remains a permanent obligation throughout our lives - whatever the dynamics in your family."Understanding the difference:
Key takeaway: You don't have to obey your parents as an adult, but you're still called to honour them.
Jenny gets practical about what honouring parents means in everyday life.
"Honouring in the Bible is about treating someone with proper respect and value. It's about saying, you are my parent. You birthed me, you raised me. You did your best, even if actually your best was inadequate."Practical ways to honour:
Key takeaway: Honour is active, not passive - it requires intentional choices about how we treat our parents.
Jenny challenges the false idea that honouring means having no boundaries.
"Despite everything I've said about honour and communication and respect and care, it is okay, it's biblical to have healthy boundaries."Real talk about boundaries:
Key takeaway: Boundaries aren't dishonoring - they're about creating space for genuine relationship.
The conversation explores what honouring looks like when life gets busy.
"One of the things my mum has said to me is like, you are always in such a rush to have time to hear me. I've tried to be really intentional - actually I value her and I want her to know that."Practical wisdom:
Key takeaway: Honouring parents includes actually making time for them, not just fitting them in when convenient.
A comment raised the common scenario: constantly critical, boundary-crossing parents who drain you emotionally.
Matt Edmundson responded:
"Honour doesn't mean unlimited access to you or letting someone repeatedly hurt you. I think sometimes honouring is actually establishing really good boundaries and sticking with them."Jenny added from experience:
Key takeaway: Your own healing journey directly impacts your ability to maintain healthy boundaries with grace.
Jenny was unequivocal about keeping yourself safe.
"You definitely have to keep yourself safe. There isn't anything that would suggest otherwise in scripture. Worst case scenario would be no contact at all."Difficult truths:
Matt added crucial perspective about reporting abuse - it needs to stop, not just for you but potentially for others.
Key takeaway: Honouring doesn't mean exposing yourself to ongoing harm. Sometimes the boundary has to be absolute.
Jenny shared about a friend whose father disappeared for twenty years then reappeared.
"It was interesting that he had just done enough forgiving that he was able to handle his dad reappearing on the scene. He'd done the business to deal with that rather than just sitting in the resentment."Hope for absence:
Key takeaway: It's okay if honouring an absent parent doesn't look like much - but forgiveness work matters regardless.
Matt and Dan both reflected on how their perspective shifted dramatically.
Matt shared:
"I didn't really understand what mum and dad went through as parents until I became a parent. I was a lot more empathetic to some of the situations they faced. My respect and my admiration for my parents grew when I became a parent myself."Dan agreed:
"You think before you're a parent that you are tired, that you have lots of things to do. And then you become a parent, you go, 'No, I wasn't tired and I had nothing to do.' It's that stark."Key takeaway: Parenting gives you empathy for what your parents faced that you simply couldn't understand before.
Jenny's most powerful moment came when she talked about her sister desperately wanting their parents to change.
"I have learned some peace, which I feel is God-given peace from accepting my parents' limits. They're not beyond change, but it's unlikely. I can have more peace if I say, 'This is how they currently are. How do I honour and respect them? What are the healthy boundaries? What can I do within the current scenario rather than rallying against it to change all the time?'"This isn't giving up - it's finding peace in reality rather than constant frustration.