Every golfer has stood over a putt and guessed. Erik Belgum learned to ask one question instead: where does the water go?

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Erik Belgum —  a design associate with Billy Fuller and Tom Kite, and right now he's elbow-deep in the dirt at Otter Creek in Columbus, Indiana — a Robert Trent Jones original being reimagined into cradle-to-grave golf. He walks Matt and the Professor through the parts of course design nobody romanticizes: the AutoCAD, the budgets, the order of operations, and the moment a green gets approved before it's actually ready.

The conversation dives into:

• How a kid pulling a cobwebbed pull cart in Iowa City ended up self-taught at Atlanta's Bobby Jones muni — on a $300 junior pass, with a five-questions-a-day limit from the pro shop
• The church pew that changed his life: ending up in a congregation with two working golf architects, Bob Cupp and Billy Fuller
• The real story of the Billy Bunker — how a highway shoulder, a McDonald's playground, and Dow Chemical turned into the industry standard
• The Cayman ball: the McGregor experiment Jack Nicklaus commissioned to make 5,000 yards play like 7,000, and the 13 dozen Erik inherited from his mentor
• Why constraint breeds creativity — bunkerless greens at Setting Down Creek, and slope as strategy at Otter Creek

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Chapters

00:00  Cold open: back to loving chipping

00:35  Bermuda vs. bent — reading lies and no margin for error

05:48  Setting up the episode: who Erik is and why now

06:14  Fact of the week: reading before bed and the science of winding down

11:05  Partner: Titleist GTS — what the Professor got fit into

12:24  Erik joins; Otter Creek, Columbus, and the J. Irwin Miller / Cummins story

16:08  Cradle-to-grave golf: the Romp, the Pup, and the championship Otter

19:26  The unromantic side of design: AutoCAD, budgets, order of operations

21:37  Origin story: his dad, Iowa City, and a cobwebbed pull cart

24:24  A $300 junior pass and learning the game at Bobby Jones

25:50  Cart kid, the starter's nightmare tee, and "five questions a day"

26:50  The church mentors: Bob Cupp and Billy Fuller

30:34  Choosing landscape architecture; UGA, fall of 2007

33:00  His own game today: letting go of score, old equipment

35:14  What is a Cayman ball?

43:00  Inheriting 13 dozen Cayman balls from Bob Cupp

40:30  Billy Fuller's agronomy pedigree and his years at Augusta National

46:45  How the Billy Bunker was actually invented

51:38  Lessons learned: the green he approved too soon

56:42  Where does the water go — infrastructure as strategy

59:31  Setting Down Creek and how constraint breeds creativity

01:02:24  Favorite courses: Cuscawilla, Old Barnwell, North Berwick, Sunningdale

01:07:57  What success at Otter Creek looks like in a year

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