In episode 2 of the pod, I talked with a long-time friend of mine, Derek Cole. Derek and I both grew up in Jamestown, NY, but he has been in Los Angeles, California, for a quarter-century. We spoke for so long I had to split it into two parts. In this episode we talk a lot about how he developed his love for travel, and what travelling means to him. We touch on many places in North America in this episode. If you like what you hear with Derek today, just wait until the next episode when we head outside of the country and hear more of his exploits in tv and movies. It's a fantastic listen! Enjoy!