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 Join Wes and Beth for a deep dive into the infamously haunted former sanatorium - including the history, urban legends, and countless paranormal encounters people have had. 

Our Sources:

https://kyhi.org/other/tuberculosis-sanatoria/waverly-hills-sanatorium/

https://usghostadventures.com/americas-most-haunted-trending/hauntings-of-waverly-hills-sanatorium/

https://ghostcitytours.com/louisville/haunted-louisville/waverly-hills/?srsltid=AfmBOorm3g1_wv43TWD6mY4gL7N4lOdus4vLTQbIenr85UvhycU6IyRk

www.discoveramericablog.com/post/waverly-hills-sanatorium

www.kcghosts.com/kentucky-waverly-hills-sanatorium

https://thelittlehouseofhorrors.com/waverly-hills-sanatorium/

www.nationalguard.mil/News/News-Features/Article/1078535/kentucky-guard-members-train-in-historic-sanatorium/

https://frightfind.com/waverly-hills-sanatorium/

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Beth discusses the possible connection between the 1973 Pascagoula Abduction case and the Falkville Metal Man. Wes discusses the mysterious disappearance and reappearance of a Whiteface Mountain skier. 

Sources Used:

https://libguides.hindscc.edu/paranormalms/pascagoula_abduction

www.pararational.com/falkville-metal-man/

www.patrickgaido.com/post/the-metal-man-of-falkville-the-bizarre-encounter-that-became-an-urban-legend

www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2020/07/13/pascagoula-ufo-alien-abduction-case-interview-recording-has-surfaced/3264064001/

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/missing-skier-recounts-journey-1.4798484

www.timesunion.com/news/article/One-year-later-still-questions-on-how-Whiteface-13607502.php

www.adirondacklife.com/2025/02/11/gone-missing-on-whiteface/

www.si.com/more-sports/2018/02/16/skier-vanishes-new-york-california-no-idea-how-he-got-there

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 Wes and Beth dive into the accomplishments and tragedies of the Congdon family and their magnificent (and haunted) home in Duluth, Minnesota.

https://hauntedhouses.com/minnesota/glensheen-mansion/

https://glensheen.org/about/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glensheen_murders

www.minnesotamonthly.com/lifestyle/the-most-haunted-places-in-minnesota/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Chester_A._Congdon

https://artfulliving.com/my-weekend-with-marjorie-congdon/

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Beth explores the myths and legends of the terrifying Cave Wyrm and the living creature that might have inspired the tales. Wes explores the infamous Stanley Hotel, from its history and urban legends, to its  alleged hauntings.

Sources Used:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/cave-wyrm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_dragon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1fnir

www.draconika.com/cultures/german-dragons

www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/cave-dragons-exist-and-saving-them-could-protect-drinking-water-180963797/

https://ghostcitytours.com/denver/haunted-denver/stanley-hotel

www.tripsavvy.com/the-haunted-stanley-hotel-4108817

www.uncovercolorado.com/stanley-hotel-haunted-history/

https://denvergazette.com/outtherecolorado/features/the-spooky-story-behind-colorado-s-haunted-stanley-hotel/article_d32dd765-7d1a-5775-a886-2d1562f51dc8.html

https://usghostadventures.com/americas-most-haunted-hotels-and-inns/hauntings-of-the-stanley-hotel/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stanley_Hotel

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Wes and Beth explore owl mythology, including Native American legends, Owlman sightings, and the possible link between these majestic birds and encounters with aliens.

Sources Used; 

www.native-languages.org/big-owl.htm

https://carinabissett.com/2017/03/24/a-parliment-of-owls-myths-of-the-southwest/

www.native-languages.org/morelegends/stikini.htm

www.indigenouspeople.net/owlwoman.htm

 https://cornishbirdblog.com/the-owlman-of-mawnan-smith/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owlman

www.jahernandez.com/posts/owlman-of-mawnan-cornwall

https://fred-andersson.medium.com/owls-ufos-and-sweden-c401d1d27918

https://mikeclelland.com/about-mike

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Wes discusses the Sallie House, the most haunted house in all of Kansas. Beth takes us to British Columbia’s Hatley Castle.

Our Sources:

https://visitatchison.com/listing/sallie-house

https://usghostadventures.com/haunted-stories/31-days-of-halloween/sallie-

www.bumpinthenight.net/sallie

www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/the-hauntings-of-the-sallie-house

https://thehauntedattic.uk/2015/07/20/interview-with-debra-pickman-of-the-

https://hatleycastle.com/about-james-dunsmuir/

www.hatleypark.ca/history/hatley-castle

www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=15749&pid=0

www.vicnews.com/local-news/ghosts-secret-passageways-and-hollywood-

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ghost-stories-hatley-castle

https://vocal.media/horror/the-real-haunted-story-of-hatley-castle

https://discover.hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Haunted-Hatley-Castle

https://visitorinvictoria.ca/hatley-castle-victoria-bc-royal-roads/

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Beth looks at the theory that aliens could be time traveling humans from the future. Wes discusses the history of Victoria, British Columbia's gorgeous bonanza castle and its ghostly inhabitants.

Our Sources 

www.space.com/aliens-time-traveling-humans-ufo-hypothesis.html

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/10/ufos-time-travelling-humans-visiting-future-professor-says-12212585/

https://thedebrief.org/scientists-successfully-simulate-backward-time-travel-with-a-25-chance-of-actually-changing-the-past/

https://futurism.com/quantum-experiment-negative-time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigdarroch_Castle

https://604now.com/historic-craigdarroch-castle-victoria-haunted-bc/

https://thecastle.ca/

https://thecastle.ca/pages/dunsmuir-family

https://npiweb.com/Blog/Posts/haunted-places-series-craigdarroch-castle

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Beth shares the dark history of New York's Roosevelt Island. Wes discusses the sadly misunderstood poisonous Wolf Peach, a fruit many of us eat today on a fairly regular basis.


Sources Used:

www.nps.gov/places/blackwell-s-island-new-york-city.htm

https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/ajp.2007.164.4.581

www.correctionhistory.org/html/chronicl/nycdoc/html/blakwel1.html

https://blogs.loc.gov/headlinesandheroes/2022/11/nellie-bly-blackwells-island/

www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=753

www.atlasobscura.com/articles/islands-of-the-undesirables-roosevelt-island-blackwell-s-island

https://nyghosts.com/the-madness-of-roosevelt-island/

www.ranker.com/list/roosevelt-island-facts/jeffrichard

www.planetnatural.com/tomato-gardening-guru/history/

https://modernfarmer.com/2014/09/poison-pleasure-secret-history-tomato/

www.uvm.edu/news/extension/history-tomatoes

https://manyeats.com/history-of-the-tomato/

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Wes and Beth pay a visit to four (somewhat) wacky US museums filled with odd, amusing, and creepy collections. 

Episode Sources Used: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Banana_Museum

https://bananaclub.com/the-banana-museum

www.visitcalifornia.com/experience/international-banana-museum/

www.atlasobscura.com/places/international-banana-club-museum

https://cbs6albany.com/community/positively-upstate/dr-best-house-a-medical-museum-frozen-in-time

https://hauntedhistorytrail.com/explore/dr-best-house-and-medical-museum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Christopher_S._Best_House_and_Office

www.huffpost.com/entry/haunted-house-possessed-plants_n_5810f319e4b0990edc2eba0b

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vent_Haven_Museum

www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-worlds-only-ventriloquism-museum-in-northern-kentucky

www.atlasobscura.com/places/leilas-hair-museum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leila%27s_Hair_Museum

https://thisbelongsinamuseum.com/leilas-hair-museum-in-independence-missouri/

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Wes and Beth look at the murder case and two possible suspects in Oregon's 100-year-old unsolved mystery. 

Sources Used:

www.grunge.com/822834/the-unsolved-mystery-of-the-lava-lake-murders/

www.tillamookheadlightherald.com/community_paid/offbeat-oregon-lava-lake-murders-are-still-officially-unsolved-but/article_0802b80c-6b5d-11e9-b828-9f89bd102737.html

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/the-lava-lake-murders-one-of-oregons-oldest-unsolved-cases

www.centraloregondaily.com/little-did-i-know/lava-lake-murders-charles-kimzey/article_00d498b0-08c5-11ef-8d3e-cfc1f8136389.html

www.historicmysteries.com/major-crimes/lava-lake-murders/25618/

www.offbeatoregon.com/o1109a-silver-lake-schoolteacher-possible-serial-killer.html

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