In light of President Trump's recent comments on Afghanistan and North Korea, Frank and David discuss:

Why Trump learns the wrong lesson about counterinsurgency from Gen. Pershing

Why a military solution probably won't work in Afganistan

Why American presidents have practiced patience with North Korea and what might happen if Trump doesn't

Last Drops

Frank recommends Gary Younge's book Another Day in the Death of America

David recommends Backstory's recent episode on Charlottesville and congratulats Liz Covart (Ben Franklin's World) for winning the Academy of Podcasters Best History Podcast Award