In this episode, Scott shares his reflections on the past season's interviews with eight of his friends of color as well as a new insight he's had into why it is that whiteness is so toxic and unsustainable.

My conversation with Silvia Ahn charts her upbringing as a conservative Korean American evangelical, and the process of transformation by which she has come to live out a deep spirituality of liberation and solidarity with marginalized communities. Silvia recently completed a master's degree in social entrepreneurship and tells a fascinating story of her own journey about how her own learning about her cultural history has been a key part of learning to walk in solidarity with others.

Join my conversation with my friend and colleague, Jovanie Smith. Jovanie is a black Haitian-American woman who lives in Atlanta, Georgia. Jovanie shares about the significance of her family in building up her strong sense of self, and reveals some of the wisdom and lessons about how to thrive in the midst of spaces that don't always honors the fullness of who she is.

In this episode, Scott interviews his long-time friend, Alex Hsu. Alex is a Taiwanese American man who is a theatre actor in the San Francisco Bay Area. Alex leads the conversation into discussing whiteness through the lens of how it intersects with toxic masculinity, and about how that intersection has shaped the journey he has needed to walk to be true to himself as an Asian American Queer-Identifying man.

Join me in sitting at the feet of my friend, Abner Ramos. Abner is a Honduran immigrant to the US who after graduating from UCLA, moved back the East LA Area to work begin what has now been an almost 25 year dedication to advocating for underresourced students and communities. Not only does Abner's hard-won wisdom flow as he speaks, but he gives powerful invitations to take activism from social media into deep community transformation. Get ready...Abner keeps it real, and you're in for a treat.

Welcome to season two of White People Work! In this episode, I interview my long-time friend, Mark Yim. Mark is an attorney in the Los Angeles area, and shares in detail about his experience as a Korean American immigrant. Mark leads us into discussion about Asian American identity, and the complexity of the Asian American and immigrant experience. Join me as I learn from Mark, and let his experience shape my own perspective and presence in the world.

In this episode, in addition to starting out with my own confession of the realities of being on this journey of taking responsibility for my own character formation as a white man, I interview the insightful Brandi Miller. Brandi has an incredibly popular podcast of her own--Reclaiming My Theology--and she and I have been friends for the past 10 years or so. Brandi shares about her experience of getting out from underneath whiteness as a queer Black woman raised in central Oregon, and about her insights after spending much of her life navigating white institutions as a woman of color and directly seeking to unlearn the toxicity of whiteness. Listen in to be inspired by Brandi's character and challenged by her perspective.

This week I interview my friend, Larissa Marks. Born and raised in rural Maui and now living on Oahu, Larissa is a realtor and a spiritual director. Larissa is a fifth generation Chinese American woman who has done a lot of deep work to come to a powerful sense of her own personal and ethnic identity. You can also learn more about her land-rights-advocacy work for indigenous Hawaiian folks at www.greenlinehawaii.com.

Join me for the first published interview of my friend, Eddy Ekmekji. Eddy is an Armenian American immigrant, grew up in Lebanon and immigrated to the US at age 10. He's a thoughtful soul who knows how to navigate in and out of the white world in the US, and as a result has deep perspectives that we can learn from.

This is the first episode in the second season of White People Work! I've spent the last couple months in a new season of learning, teaching a class, and interviewing a number of friends of color about their perspectives on whiteness, white people, and their experience of life in the US as folks of color.