Trigger warning: this conversation is hard and I mention some facts and statistics that you might not like to hear, but we can't ignore them. “I don’t want to talk about what I’ve learnt about black lives, I want to talk about what I’ve learnt about white privilege and whiteness related to racism.” We need to be having conversations - listening to them and being a part of them. In this episode I talk about what I've learnt, and continue to learn, about whiteness, race and racism.