“Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.” But how long after serving their prison sentence should we punish people? And in an economy fueled in large part by the prison industrial complex, what kind of crimes should warrant keeping a person unemployed, unhoused, and in a cycle of poverty? This week, host Sarah Jones talks to Sheena Meade, the director of the Clean Slate Initiative, about the barriers Americans face when they’re no longer behind bars.

Follow "America, Who Hurt You?" on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube for more hope and encouragement throughout your week. This episode was executive-produced by Sarah Jones. Kennedy Hill is our producer and digital strategist. Our audio engineer is Peter Geiser. Thank you to Gina Delvac for production support.