Who is responsible for the current crisis? Is it PTI or is it PMLN?  What will it take to get out of this mess?  What is the Supertax? Is it a good thing or a bad thing?  We often talk over each other, rather than talking to each other.  We don't even bother listening to the other side, we read/watch to argue, not to understand, not to see where they are coming from.  Social media makes enemies out of all of us. This is why I invited a staunch PTI Supporter, a staunch PML-N supporter and a public policy expert to actually debate the things we are all talking about on social media with some actual nuance as opposed to calling each other biased, youthiyas and patwaris.  Uzair younus is director of the Pakistan initiative at the Atlantic council, a dc-based think tank, and host of the podcast pakistonomy.  Bilal Lakhani is a columnist for Express Tribune and a recipient of the James A Wechsler Award for International Reporting. Supports PTI.  Mustafa Bajwa is a public sector strategy and operations consultant. Supports PML-N.  The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience  The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.      Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89  Chapters:  Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 4:00 Framing the current crisis 8:00 The November appointment and the Vote of No Confidence 21:00 Did PML-N want immediate elections? 33:00 The Privilege of PTI Supporters 44:00 PMLN's biggest threat is from the army 51:00 Asad Umer 54:00 Supertax: What is it? Is it good? Is it bad? 1:08:00 The need for hard decisions and political capital 1:27:00 Politial consensus and the elite status quo 1:35:00 Political Instability and Anti-military politics 1:50:30 Zardari 1:56:00 Peoples Questions