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In this episode, I talk to Michael, who was HOD on Hills of California when I was a dresser. Michael shares his journey into theatrical sound—beginning as a teenager doing work experience on "Mamma Mia" before being mentored by people who taught him the craft on the job. His story illustrates how theatre can open doors to those without formal training but with a passion and willingness to learn.

The conversation delves into the fascinating technical aspects of theatrical sound. Michael also reflects on moments of both triumph and challenge, including temporarily leaving the industry before realising theatre was truly his home. 

Whether you're a theatre professional or simply curious about the hidden workings of performance, this conversation will deepen your appreciation for the unseen artistry happening at every show.

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Step into the shadows of London's dazzling West End with Who Makes Theatre, where the spotlight turns to reveal the extraordinary people who work tirelessly behind the scenes. Meet Shennika and Jo, a Dresser and Crew member respectively from Disney's The Lion King, whose stories illuminate the vibrant but often invisible world that keeps theatrical magic alive night after night.

Shennika's journey from digital artist to dresser reveals the often unconventional path many theatrical careers take. Her candid reflections show how she found her place in the whirlwind of quick changes, costume repairs, and emotional support that defines her role. 
Jo offers a fascinating glimpse into stage crew life, describing how their childhood fascination with Cirque du Soleil evolved into a career spent "working in the shadows." Their openness about neurodivergence in the industry challenges the "show must go on" mentality while advocating for better understanding and support systems. From perfectly timed tree branch drops to the thrill of watching audience reactions through video monitors, their story demonstrates how the smallest technical details create unforgettable theatrical moments.

Both guests discuss the unique challenges of theatre careers – the antisocial hours that require holidays for "normal weekend functions," the pressure of representation for people of colour backstage, and the intense emotional bonds formed with colleagues. Despite these hurdles, their passion shines through in every anecdote and reflection.

Whether you're considering a backstage career, curious about how West End productions actually function, or simply appreciate the craftsmanship behind artistic experiences, Theatre Voices offers an intimate, honest exploration of theatrical life beyond the applause. 

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Have you ever wondered about the people who make theatre magic happen night after night? The ones you never see but whose work is essential to every performance you've ever loved?

Who Makes Theatre answers those questions. This podcast pulls back the curtain on the hidden world of West End theatre, guided by Khadifa, a dresser with 20 years of backstage experience. This isn't just about costume changes and technical wizardry—it's about the extraordinary community that forms behind the scenes of your favourite shows.

For the very first episode of this podcast series, Khadifa goes full circle, talking to Michael Brown whom she first worked with on Mary Poppins and now twenty years later works with when she deps at Lion King. As the Lion King is one of the shows she currently deps on she decided to launch the podcast with a special double bill, released over two days.

This Lion King special features Michael Brown (Deputy Head of Automation) and Patience Persson (Company Manager), whose journeys reveal both the technical mastery required to mount spectacular productions and the human connections that sustain them. Michael's transition from flyman to automation spans decades of theatrical evolution, while Patience's path from ballet student to performer to company manager demonstrates how representation in theatre continues to evolve.
These conversations explore how theatre creates space for authenticity and connection while challenging lingering barriers to diversity and inclusion.

Whether you're a theatre professional, an aspiring artist, or simply curious about what happens beyond the footlights, these stories will transform how you experience your next performance. 

Special thanks to the management at the Lion King and Disney Theatrical for supporting the show. Both episodes were recorded at The Lyceum Theatre - substage and in the office.

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