Everyone wants to be liked. But for leaders, does pursuing likability put your authority into question? Or worse, can it sand down the edges of everything that makes you a dynamic leader? MSNBC host and author of The Likability Trap Alicia Menendez joins Lindsay and Carolyn to unpack the many-edged sword of likability, why (shocking!) it’s even more fraught for women and non-white people, and what we can do to push back against our culture’s bias.

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