Who’s the Human? with Daphne Thomson

Who’s the Human? with Daphne Thomson

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Who’s the Human? with Daphne Thomson episodes

  • How AI is Changing Emergency Management with Alanna Burton

    Daphne Thomson and Alanna Burton discussed integrating AI into emergency management to enhance efficiency in municipal Emergency Operations Centers (EOCs), leveraging existing project management systems like monday.com, Trello, or Asana. 

    They addressed information privacy concerns, emphasizing the benefits of digital systems over hard copies for data flow and analysis, and explored customizing these systems and using Microsoft Power Apps for advanced emergency management. 

    Decisions were made to explore using existing project management systems and Power Apps for emergency management, focusing on efficiency, data management, and customization. 


    24 min
  • AI-Powered Fraud, E-Signatures & Cyber Threats Explained

    DocuSign's Deputy CISO clarified the product's security differentiation against Microsoft E-signature with emphasis on compliance, AI-related risks, and agentic systems.
     
    Addressing Organizational Change and Silos
    The Deputy CISO is working to shift DocuSign's writing culture toward fact-based narratives to enable Agentic rollups for leadership, encountering resistance from long-time employees. They noted that major operational silos persist within the organization, contrasting with prior experiences at Amazon.

    DocuSign Security Differentiation and AI
    DocuSign differentiates itself from Microsoft E-signature as a standalone agreement platform with end-to-end security, extensive compliance, and certifications like ISO 27001 and FedRAMP. The discussion transitioned to managing AI risks, noting that organizations must implement "friction guarding checkpoints" due to AI's non-deterministic responses and hallucination potential.

    Combating E-signature Fraud Risks
    DocuSign utilizes tamper evidence seals with AES 256 encryption and detailed audit trails to ensure document integrity. The largest security risk identified is not the signature itself, but fraudulent email framing via AI-automated "drip campaigns" that redirect users to malicious parties. 


    30 min
  • AI, Brain Health & Critical Thinking in Local Government

    Meeting attendees discussed balancing Artificial Intelligence efficiency with critical thinking and verified human-led oversight.
     
    Preserving Critical Thinking Skills
    Relying on Artificial Intelligence tools may cause cognitive decline if critical thinking is neglected. Users should treat technology as an inexperienced intern requiring constant guidance.

    Artificial Intelligence Verification Methods
    Verification of Artificial Intelligence sources is critical for maintaining professional integrity. Implementing novel challenges and movement breaks reduces workplace stress and enhances cognitive agility.

    Maintaining Final Human Authority
    Experts agreed that humans must remain the final decision-making authority because Artificial Intelligence cannot replicate essential discernment. Humans are irreplaceable in validating complex outcomes.

    28 min
  • Your Cyber Risk Called. It Brought a Calculator.

    Meeting discussions aligned Threat Captain platform capabilities with municipal cybersecurity governance and financial risk modeling needs.
     
     Market Strategy and Legislation
    Changing Canadian cybersecurity legislation shifts liability from vendors to municipal users. The team refined the sales approach to position the platform as a financial risk tool.

    Platform Demonstration and Methodology
    The simulation for the Town of Maggie demonstrated ransomware impacts and financial outcomes. The team decided to create a municipality downtime calculator for better data accuracy.

    Governance and Risk Management
    Successful municipal cybersecurity requires integrating incident response into Emergency Operating Centers. This approach shifts focus toward defining operational pain thresholds and managing vendor risks.


    33 min
  • AI and the Next Leadership

    Discussion on AI integration in government leadership and the essential role of human oversight alongside mentorship.
     
    AI Adoption and Strategy
    Current AI adoption is 12 percent against a 60 percent goal by 2034. Leadership must avoid top-down implementation by involving teams in decision-making processes.

    Human Oversight and Risks
    Human oversight remains necessary because AI lacks context, intuition, and memory. Over-reliance on AI threatens critical thinking and risks data security through potential exposure.

    Mentorship and Skill Development
    Strategic human mentorship and emotional intelligence are irreplaceable for navigating political nuances. Leaders should prioritize clear communication and relationship building over automation for effective management. 

    31 min

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