There is no end to the talent line of brilliant black players in English football – but why are so few of them going on to become managers or executives in the game?

As new research from the Black Footballers Partnership claims the career ladder for black players is "missing rungs", we hear from the Premier League’s only black manager Patrick Vieira, QPR director of football Les Ferdinand and former England striker Jermain Defoe on his quest to become a head coach.

We also talk to Tony Burnett, chief executive of anti-discrimination group Kick It Out, who is calling for government legislation to force clubs to meet diversity targets.

Presenters: Delyth Lloyd & Alex Howell

Producer: Sam Sheringham