In this episode, Canon Megan and Adam get a little uncomfortable and talk about one of the church’s more delicate subjects—money. They explore how the American church built its financial foundation, from the days of land grants and pew rents to modern pledge drives and stewardship campaigns. Along the way, they uncover some of the stranger and darker corners of church history, including ties to slavery and the role of wealth in shaping who sat where on Sunday morning.

Megan and Adam talk about how money has always been more than just a budget line—it’s a moral mirror for the church. The conversation wrestles with what it means to be transparent, responsible, and faithful with resources today, all while keeping a sense of humor about the fact that, yes, the church has always been talking about money.