Lawyer Talk: Off the Record

Why Arguing with Police on the Street Rarely Works | Lawyer Talk Q&A


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We answer a bold comment from a seasoned police officer who claims he’s never lost a case—and apparently, lawyers fear him at the courthouse doors.

Hey everyone, welcome back to Lawyer Talk! Steve and Troy talk about the realities of dealing with police on the street, especially when it comes to handing over your ID or deciding whether to stand your ground.

You’ll hear Steve talk candidly about why challenging a cop during a traffic stop almost never works out in your favor, and how a little courtesy goes a long way both roadside and in court. And just to clear things up, Troy asks whether lawyers actually beg officers for plea deals—or if that’s just cop talk.

It’s a real, no-nonsense conversation with plenty of personal stories, practical advice, and some good-natured banter between lawyer and student. Let’s get into what happens when you’re face-to-face with experience, authority, and the law itself!

Key Takeaways:

  • Comply First, Challenge Later: Steve emphasizes that the side of the road is not the time to debate a police officer’s authority. If given a lawful order, compliance can avoid additional charges. Disputes are best resolved in court, not during the initial encounter.
  • Respect and Professionalism Matter: Both highlight that maintaining respect—whether you’re a lawyer, defendant, or officer—can positively influence outcomes. Simple gestures, like providing an ID and staying courteous, often lead to smoother interactions.
  • Negotiating Plea Deals Involves Many Parties: Steve clarifies that while prosecutors typically handle plea bargains, police officers can influence case negotiations. Treating everyone involved respectfully can make a crucial difference, especially if an officer’s input is needed for a favorable resolution.

Got a question you want answered on the podcast? Call 614-859-2119 and leave us a voicemail. Steve will answer your question on the next podcast!

Submit your questions to www.lawyertalkpodcast.com.

Recorded at Channel 511.

Stephen E. Palmer, Esq. has been practicing criminal defense almost exclusively since 1995. He has represented people in federal, state, and local courts in Ohio and elsewhere.

Though he focuses on all areas of criminal defense, he particularly enjoys complex cases in state and federal courts.

He has unique experience handling and assembling top defense teams of attorneys and experts in cases involving allegations of child abuse (false sexual allegations, false physical abuse allegations), complex scientific cases involving allegations of DUI and vehicular homicide cases with blood alcohol tests, and any other criminal cases that demand jury trial experience.

Steve has unique experience handling numerous high-publicity cases that have garnered national attention.

For more information about Steve and his law firm, visit Palmer Legal Defense.

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