Dear Blizz: please don't send our boy Zul'jan to the depths of Warcraft villainy. We know he's flawed – but that's why we love him.

We don't actually get to this part of the discussion until about an hour and a half in, to be honest. Until then, enjoy some chit-chats about our weeks in WoW, the state of the game, and then some.

Warning: this episode contains spoilers from the 12.0.7 PTR, please mute if you would rather not listen!

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