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Why Burnout Isn’t a Workload Problem: Coco Rogers on Leadership, Care, and Crumb Culture


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What does leadership look like in a world obsessed with productivity, performance, and perks? In this episode, Meghan talks with Coco Rogers about her journey from naval officer to entrepreneur, the leadership lessons she kept from the military, and the toxic workplace patterns she had to unlearn. Coco shares her CARE framework, which stands for Clarity, Authenticity, Recognition, and Empathy, and explains why so many organizations are still offering “crumb culture” instead of real trust, support, and sustainable leadership. This conversation explores burnout, boundaries, middle management, community, nervous system regulation, self-worth, and how caring for yourself changes the way you lead others.

You can find Coco at https://www.coroconsulting.co/about

Books mentioned:

  • Quit Like A Woman, Holly Whitaker
  • Rest Is Resistance, Tricia Hersey
  • The Sugar Jar, Yasmine Cheyenne
  • The Book of Boundaries, Melissa Hartwig Urban


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Wait - What Do You Do Again? | Careers, Life, and the Surprising Paths We TakeBy Meghan DeFord