In this conversation, Christian Baxter sits down with Daniel of @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel to explore what happens when Christianity is reduced to ideas, arguments, or online content—and why belief alone is no longer enough to sustain faith in a fragmented, post-institutional age.

The discussion moves through art, beauty, political economy, apologetics, and local community, tracing how modern life has hollowed out shared practices while multiplying opinions. Together, they ask a quietly unsettling question: if Christianity becomes something you mainly consume or debate, what is actually left to participate in?

Rather than offering a program or a culture-war posture, this episode circles a deeper claim: Christianity survives as a lived reality—formed through beauty, ritual, time, and embodied community—not as a set of propositions optimized for the internet. Beauty draws before arguments persuade. Formation precedes explanation. Church is not an information service, but a place you enter and are shaped by.

This conversation will resonate with anyone wrestling with the limits of online discourse, the exhaustion of ideological Christianity, or the longing for something real enough to inhabit. It’s an exploration of why faith must eventually move from the screen into shared life, shared time, and shared ground.

00:00 Introduction & framing the conversation

04:30 Art, faith, and incarnational thinking

11:45 Culture after the “end of history”

19:30 Institutional breakdown and loss of trust

28:10 Politics, economics, and spiritual vacuum

37:20 Christianity reduced to ideas and arguments

46:40 Why apologetics isn’t enough anymore

56:15 Formation vs belief in modern Christianity

1:06:30 The internet, abstraction, and disembodied faith

1:17:00 Beauty as attraction, not decoration

1:28:10 Liturgy, ritual, and lived participation

1:39:30 Why people ask “why bother with church?”

1:50:00 Local community, place, and imagination

2:01:45 Small towns, scale, and human formation

2:13:30 Christianity as a way of life, not content

2:26:00 Closing reflections on reality and participation

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