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Why Coding is the Fastest Path to AGI | Turing CEO Jonathan Siddharth


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Who is teaching the world's most powerful AI models to think?

Turing is one of the largest data partners to OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Meta, Microsoft, and Nvidia. At a $2.2 billion valuation it has become one of the most important infrastructure layers in the AGI race.

Jonathan Siddharth started Turing in 2018 with a thesis that talent matching is a trillion-dollar problem. Turing reached unicorn status in 2021. Then, in 2022, as the foundation model race accelerated, OpenAI approached Turing to provide coding data for ChatGPT.

Jonathan recognised that frontier AI labs faced an enormous bottleneck: high-quality training data and human intelligence at scale. Instead of remaining just a talent marketplace, he made a bet that most unicorn CEOs never make. He built a second business on top of the first and leaned back into his AI research roots.

Jonathan has a clear view of what needs to happen before we get to super intelligence. The four keys to unlocking AGI: coding, reasoning, tool use, and multimodality. He believes we solve for those four, and AI can do almost anything a human can do in front of a computer. 

If you are excited about where the AGI race is heading this episode is for you

00:00 - Trailer
01:06 - What Turing does
05:55 - Why OpenAI reached out to Turing
8:28 - How GPT-3 became ChatGPT
17:54 - How ImageNet breakthrough changed the world
21:12 - The largest provider of coding data to AI labs
24:34 - Four keys to super intelligence
28:45 - Every human will run multiple companies in 10 years
32:27 - Can agents have self-improvement loops?
34:36 - The future of software engineering
36:26 - Agents should create, humans should steer
39:46 - Is the line between products and services companies blurring?
40:42 - How an agent can handle hiring end-to-end
43:36 - Every human can now write software
45:22 - Will workflow SaaS disappear?
47:46 - No fine-tuning vs fine-tuning camps
51:49 - A case study in compute constraints
57:06 - Why the world needs so much compute
1:01:26 - Where Jonathan would invest today
1:03:16 - Where cybersecurity is heading
1:08:31 - How the world will look in 10 years
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