Michael Ovitz co-founded CAA and helped reshape Hollywood, then took the same playbook into tech investing and advising founders.

In this conversation, he breaks down the operating rules that kept CAA from losing clients, and the personal disciplines that kept him grounded when the stakes got massive.

You’ll learn how to build momentum, tell the truth without hesitation, read for context instead of noise, hire people who raise the standard, and package ideas into outcomes.

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Approximate Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:58) Learning Machine

(03:41) You Don't Know Everything

(08:17) How People Go Wrong

(16:42) Don’t Fight Your Job

(18:28) Managing Relationships

(20:46) Hiring Top Performers

(26:47) Never Get High on Your Own Supply

(30:27) Identifying Greatness

(33:28) Meeting Marc Andreessen

(43:42) On Failure

(47:48) The Smartest Person I Ever Met

(52:49) The Genius of Patrick Collison

(57:51) A Good Idea Taken Too Far

(01:01:30) Information Consumption

(01:14:13) Business Education Curriculum

(01:16:28) Momentum

(01:18:16) Packaging

(01:24:43) What Would You Tell Your Younger Self?

(01:26:30) The Importance of Trust

(01:29:15) What is Success For You?

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Ray Kroc turned McDonald’s from a single roadside restaurant into a system built to scale.

At 52, after decades selling paper cups and milkshake machines, he opened the first McDonald’s in 1955 and helped grow it to nearly 8,000 restaurants worldwide.

This Outliers episode breaks down how standards, execution, franchising, and real estate created a business machine built to last.

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(00:00) Introduction

(01:46) Turning Dreams Into Action

(10:05) The Multimixer

(15:51) America's Roadside Revolution

(22:58) Building the Machine

(32:14) What Ray Kroc Really Built

(43:12) Epilogue: Grinding it Out

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Morgan Housel breaks down the exact framework he uses to build wealth, minimize financial stress, and buy freedom.

While most financial advice focuses on how to get rich, Morgan explains why the skills needed to stay rich are completely different.

You will learn why "boring" investing beats complex strategies, how to avoid the social traps that destroy wealth, and the specific equation for finding contentment.

Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund and the bestselling author of The Psychology of Money.

Enjoy!

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Approximate Timestamps:

(00:00) Trailer/Introduction

(00:58) What Drives You?

(04:50) What Can Money Do For Us?

(07:22) Happiness vs. Satisfaction

(11:45) Becoming Financially Independent

(14:40) Survival and Contrast

(20:16) Ad Break

(21:05) Investing: Can You Beat the Market?

(22:32) When Is The Right Time To Buy a House?

(26:45) Housing Affordability and Equity

(28:39) Step by Step Investing

(35:08) Eras of Life and Spending In Those Eras

(43:50) Raising Kids With Money

(48:46) Social Media: Expectations and Comparison

(55:46) Lessons From the Vanderbilts

(01:01:21) Learning From Others Spending Habits

(01:07:51) Lessons From History: Depressions, Panics, Downturns

(01:11:40) Net Worth in Cash

(01:14:20) Passive Income and Financial Independence

(01:25:58) Massive Success: Doing It All Again

(01:32:27) What Should You Optimize For?

(01:38:24) What Do You Splurge On?

(01:40:38) What Can History Teach Us About Inflation?

(01:47:46) Index Funds Allocation

(01:53:36) What Is Success For You?

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Peter D. Kaufman is the Chairman and CEO of GlenAir, the editor of Poor Charlie’s Almanack, and was a decades-long friend of Charlie Munger.

In a talk that was never meant to be made public, one of the world's greatest business minds reveals the secrets to multidisciplinary thinking.

Peter allowed the complete talk to be transcribed and posted on FS.

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(00:00) Introduction

(01:49)  Why is Multidisciplinary Thinking Important?

(07:27) How The World Works

(18:39) The Biggest Blind Spots in Business

(22:05) You Only Get One Life

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James Clear is the author of Atomic Habits, a global bestseller that has shaped how millions of people think about habits, consistency, and long-term change.

In this conversation, James explains how habits shape identity, why progress often stays invisible before it compounds, and how to design your environment so good behavior becomes the default.

You will learn how to stay consistent when motivation fades, stop quitting too early, and build habits that work across different seasons of life.

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(00:00) Introduction

(00:56) The Role of Identity in Habit Formation

(03:38) Lack of Patience Changes the Outcome

(07:20) Seeing Invisible Progress

(09:58) Why Do We Change What's Working?

(13:46) Creating Conditions for Success

(17:44) Finding the Confidence to Start

(23:55) Playing to Win vs. Playing Not to Lose

(26:29) Internal Sayings to Live By

(30:36) Reputation

(34:32) Positioning in Business and Life

(44:36) Investment Philosophy

(47:18) Turning Reading Habits into Action

(50:31) Taking Notes While Reading...

(52:36) ...And Then What?

(56:06) Maintaining Focus on What You Want

(58:01) Lessons on Filtering Opportunities

(01:06:06) Longevity of Content

(01:07:21) Sequencing Through the Eras of Your Life

(01:11:22) What is a Habit?

(01:13:03) Is a Habit Working For You or Against You?

(01:15:20) Evaluation Framework for Habits

(01:18:32) Building or Replacing a Habit

(01:22:19) Social Media Detox

(01:25:34) The Most Important Upstream Habits to Create

(01:29:58) Relationship Check-In

(01:30:57) Thoughts on Popular Habits

(01:37:31) Become Stronger Than Your Feelings

(01:42:59) When Should You Deep Dive into an Idea

(01:48:12) Complexity vs. Simplicity

(01:54:40) Consistency vs. Intensity

(02:01:11) Learning New Subjects as an Adult

(02:06:40) Prioritization

(02:11:53) What is Success For You?

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What do some of the greatest outliers in business history have in common?

For the past year, I’ve been sharing the stories of history's greatest outliers like James Dyson, Estée Lauder, Sol Price, Henry Singleton, Les Schwab, Rose Blumkin, Jim Clayton, and Andrew Mellon. These are names that deserve to be studied, but rarely are.

This episode explores the mindsets, systems and patterns history’s most notable outliers used to turn adversity into long-term advantage.

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(00:00) - Introduction

(01:51) - Part 1: A Taste for Saltwater

(09:20) - Part 2: Do it now

(17:40) Ad Break

(19:37) - Part 3: Systems to Scale

(30:51) - Part 4: Understand What Really Matters

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This week, we're releasing a special episode of TKP with Pierre Poilievre.

While we don't often tackle politics on the show, we are trying to improve political discourse by offering a platform for both sides to speak with depth and nuance.

This episode covers the economy, media, free speech, immigration, corporate subsidies, and more. (And before you ask, the same invite was extended to both Pierre and Prime Minister Mark Carney).

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(00:00) Introduction

(01:31) What is the Role of Government?

(03:31) Canadian National Identity

(05:52) Canada's Global Role

(07:33) Immigration: Problems & Solutions

(09:37) What's Going Right?

(14:50) Second & Third Order Consequences

(17:52) Government Spending & Economic Prospects

(20:05) Positioning: Canada & the United States

(24:36) Canada & Foreign Companies

(26:57) Fighting for Canada Long Term

(30:05) Weaponized Complexity

(31:52) What Role Does the Media Play?

(37:49) Rapid Fire: Get to Know Pierre

(47:44) Maintaining Hope in Politics

(49:06) The Drug Crisis

(54:00) Bringing Hope into 2026

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The Knowledge Project closes 2025 with a look back at the most meaningful conversations of the year.

Featuring insights from some of our most impactful episodes, this collection brings together practical insights on decision-making, leadership, preparation, relationships, trust, and performance.

This episode features insights from world-class investor Alfred Lin, tech founder and operator Bret Taylor, behavioral scientist Logan Ury, legendary NFL coach Bill Belichick, former PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi, disciplined value investor Anthony Scilipoti, trust and communication expert Lulu Cheng Meservey, Shopify President Harley Finkelstein, and performance coach Jim Murphy.

These are the insights that help you prepare better, make clearer decisions, and build momentum for the year ahead.

Thank you for listening and we can't wait to see you next year.

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(00:00) Introduction

(01:32) Alfred Lin: Inputs vs Outputs - Daily Routines and Priorities

(08:05) Bret Taylor: Founder Mode (Accountability vs. Caricature)

(19:43) Ad Break

(21:58) Logan Ury: Navigating Relationships and Attachments

(29:04) Bill Belichick: Preparation and Success In Life And The NFL

(38:33) Indra Nooyi: Delivering a Message That Gets Heard

(43:36) Anthony Scilipoti: Don’t Rely on AI, You Still Have to Put the Work In

(52:11) Lulu Cheng Meservey: Engineering Trust and Building Confidence That Others Can Believe In

(57:53) Harley Finkelstein: Overcoming Failure + The Hard Work Behind the Life You Want

(1:05:15) Jim Murphy: Performance Habits of Successful People

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Bernie Marcus is the co-founder and former CEO of Home Depot. 

This is how he built a culture of ownership, kept going when everyone turned him down, nearly lost it all, and created one of the most successful retailers in history. 

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(00:00) Introduction

(02:00) Part 1: An Accidental Miracle

(09:29) Part 2: A Golden Horseshoe Kick

(25:49) Part 3: Building From Nothing

(38:53) Part 4: Orange Everywhere

(49:40) Part 5: The Legacy

(54:17) Lessons

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Marcus, Bernie, and Arthur Blank. Built from Scratch: How a Couple of Regular Guys Grew The Home Depot from Nothing to $30 Billion. New York: Crown Business, 1999.

Best Practice Institute. "Bernie Marcus Interview." YouTube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNP0YYDi1FY.

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Ogilvy Vice Chairman Rory Sutherland reveals the formula for persuasion, why people make decisions and how you can use psychology to your advantage.

Rory is the world’s leading advertising strategist. He spent almost four decades as Ogilvy studying why people behave the way they do and how to change that behavior.

He explains why contrast drives choices and efficiency often destroys value, and how trust, friction, and design shape real-world behavior.

+Rory was previously on the show, check out episode 19.

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(00:00) Introduction

(01:31) AI and Decision Making

(03:48) Are We Looking for Efficiency in the Wrong Place?

(15:52) Ad Break

(18:09) Ice Cold Beer Thought Experiment

(19:56) Trust and Manipulation

(27:15) Dyson Customer Experience and 'Brand Quake'

(29:21) Customer Value Thinking

(34:28) Why Is Dyson So Effective at Marketing?

(36:28) Ad Break

(38:51) Map/Territory Problem in Business

(39:27) The Problem with Shareholders

(42:29) The Problem with 'Tech Bro' Decision Making

(45:14) Warren Buffett’s Approach to Choosing Management

(47:52) John Bragg’s Approach to Buying Infrastructure

(51:23) High Trust vs Low Trust Societies

(58:45) What Can We Learn from the Mad Men Era of Marketing

(1:03:59) The Danger of Bad Marketing

(1:17:47) Navigating Cancel Culture with Common Sense

(1:29:59) Signalling to Ourselves When We Purchase Something

(1:39:06) Changing of Societal Norms

(1:43:27) How to Write Good Copy

(1:56:30) What Is Success for You?

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