It's a special crossover episode of Build! And the first episode in our brand new dedicated feed. Today's guest? Dave Gerhardt, Drift's VP of Marketing. Dave discusses his one week spent as a product manager at Drift plus, the real meat of this episode – how to write good copy and tell a story with your product. Copywriting and storytelling are key to product management. If you can't tell the story and motivate your team, they won't know where to go next. On this episode of Build, how to build that excitement and get everyone on the same page.

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WHAT WAS COVERED

00:38 - DG’s one week as a product manager

2:17 - The most underrated skill at a company: internal marketing

5:15 - Read it out loud, say what you mean

6:40 - Simplify

8:00 - Would you say that out loud?

8:28 - Use their words

10:45 - Let your customers write the copy

12:20 - The swipe file

13:44 - Storytelling

14:10 - Five parts of a story

15:34 - The best books on copywriting

18:13 - The best books on storytelling

19:00 - DG’s storytelling secret: The Steve Jobs’ keynote

19:46 - The hardest part of storytelling in product

21:34 - Two ways to sell a shovel