My Rejection Story

Why Death is the Ultimate Motivator, with Jodi Wellman


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In this powerful mini replay, positive psychology practitioner and author Jodi Wellman joins Alice for a conversation about mortality, motivation, and the brave work of actually living our lives instead of waiting for the perfect moment. Jodi — known for her viral TED Talk, her book You Only Die Once, and her work at Four Thousand Mondays — explains why death is a great motivator, and why many of us need the uncomfortable truth of our finiteness to finally stop procrastinating the things that matter most.

Jodi shares how her mother’s early death shaped her philosophy, and why the reminder you are dying isn’t morbid — it’s honest. She breaks down the psychological insight behind death as motivation, the research that shows we act more boldly when we acknowledge our limits, and why “there’s no greater motivator than death” when we’re stuck in fear.

From reloading a stapler in a corporate job she knew she’d outgrown, to making the leap into coaching, to leaving a successful business partnership to build 4000 Mondays, Jodi explains how we can recognize the moment when procrastination turns into self-betrayal — and how to reclaim our agency before regret piles up.

This episode is for anyone who keeps waiting to feel confident, ready, or “better” before making a move; for anyone asking is death a good motivator? or wondering why fear feels louder than desire. Jodi’s answer is simple: motivation rarely arrives. We create it by acting.

If you’ve ever needed a reminder that your Mondays are ticking down, that your dreams won’t wait, or that you only die once, this conversation will wake you up in the best possible way.

Resources & Links

  • Book: You Only Die Once https://www.amazon.com/You-Only-Die-Once-Regrets/dp/0316574279

  • Website: https://fourthousandmondays.com/

  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fourthousandmondays/?hl=en

    TED Talk: Jodi Wellman on how facing death helps us live, https://www.ted.com/embed/jodi_wellman_how_death_can_bring_you_back_to_life


  • Chapters

    00:00 The Wake-Up Call: Losing Her Mother Early
    01:29 Fear, Procrastination, and the Self-Talk That Finally Works
    02:40 Why Positive Psychology Still Needs a Little Pain
    03:53 Denying Death, Compromised Inner Lives
    04:33 Playing Small to Avoid Rejection
    06:40 The Stapler Moment: Staying Too Long in Work That Drains You
    08:58 Why Confidence Never Arrives First
    10:11 Studying Memento Mori & Starting Four Thousand Mondays
    11:25 The Moment She Committed to Leaving Corporate
    12:20 Choosing the Thesis That Changed Everything
    13:08 Community, Courage, and Feeling More Alive
    14:33 Rejection in Real Time: The TV Project She’s Avoiding
    16:59 Eating Rejection for Breakfast
    18:04 Why the Sweaty Rejections Matter Most
    19:54 Alice’s Big Audacious Rejection Goal
    20:46 Where to Find Jodi & What to Read First

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    My Rejection StoryBy Alice Draper