Podcast host Duncan Barkes is joined by Daniel Lilley, Senior Researcher at Civitas and Max Marlow, Director of Research and Education at the Adam Smith Institute. 

They discuss the new Civitas research paper entitled 'Balancing taxes and benefits: Starting the public conversation on net recipience'. 

Max also talks about the ASI's Millionaire Tracker that reveals a growing number of millionaires are leaving the country.  

They also ponder why in the UK there appears to be a hatred of those who have become wealthy and successful.