Jake Bernardes, CISO at Anecdotes, brings a uniquely adventurous spirit to this week’s show! And his ethos of “Don’t be an a**hole” is certainly one we can get behind.

George K and George A talk to Jake about:

• Jake's "inherent risk-taker" philosophy that's guided his career moves
• Why the best CISOs are "repulsed by the idea of being bored" and how that drives innovation
• The changing face of security leadership - from risk-averse consultants to today’s disruptive problem solvers
• His refreshingly honest take on how CISOs should interact with vendors: "Just don't be an a**hole"

Whether you're in the trenches, pitching security tools, or running a whole damn cyber program, Jake drops serious insights you can use.

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