Darren and John wrapped up some business in Carlsbad and went back to John's house to talk about the same thing everyone else is talking about: Juan Soto, the trade that sent him to the Padres, and everything that has happened to the Padres (and the Nationals) since then. Although both guys add different points of context that feel important for understanding why the team made the move and maybe why it's okay, even if it was a failure.

Later, John badgers Darren for some information about San Diego FC ahead of their big game against Vancouver tomorrow.

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