Matt and Jay discuss Why Men Need To Seek Pain, the value of suffering, how to overcome adversity, why embracing the suck leads to high achievement, the difference between men and women in pain, and much more!

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Why Men Need To Seek Pain

Life IS Pain

All religions/philosophies teach this:Buddhism: The first of the four noble truths taught by Buddha “All existence is suffering/pain/anguish” Christianity: Christ tells his followers “Take up your cross and follow me”Islam: In the 2nd surah of the Quran, God tells humanity He will “certainly test [them] with fear and hunger, and loss of property, lives, and crops.” Judaism: In Genesis 3, God tells mankind “cursed is the ground because of you...Both thorns and thistles it will yield for you...By the sweat of your brow you will eat your bread, until you return to the ground.”Hinduism: The ultimate goal of life is to achieve Moksha - the release from the suffering and pain of existence on the earthCommunism (Marxism): Religion is the opiate (pain-reliever) of the massesAtheism: “The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation…. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored.” (physicist Richard Dawkins)Stoicism: “Pain is never unbearable or unending, so you can remember these limits and not add to them in your imagination”  —  EpicurusThe Princess Bride: “Life IS pain highness - anyone who says differently is selling something”

What IS Pain?

Jay's recent long runMatt's broken jaw Pain is a signal from somewhere in your body that something is happening that needs to be addressedShoulder, neck, stomach, heart, brain, worry, stress, fear, discomfort

If Pain Is a Constant In Life, What Do We Do With It?

Modern perspectives on pain for most peopleRun from itUse painkillers, drugs, alcohol to deaden your nervesPretend like it’s not happeningCover it up with pleasure

BUT modern philosophy does not teach that to SEEK PAIN IS A GOOD THING!!! This is why so few men are truly successful in 2021!

Examples of Men Who Sought Pain

Roger Bannister (First man to run 4 minute mile)“The man who can drive himself further once the effort gets painful is the man who will win.”Sir Edmund Hillary (with Tenzing Norgay, first men to climb Everest)“The feeling of fear, as long as you can take advantage of it and not be rendered useless by it, can make you extend yourself beyond what you would regard as your capacity. If you're afraid, the blood seems to flow freely through the veins, and you really do feel a sense of stimulation.”Ross Edgely (First man to swim 1,780 consecutive miles around Great Britain)“You find the most honest version of yourself in complete exhaustion”“For the record, I don’t like pain, but it is a means to an end. I have learned that if what I am doing produces pain, I will reap the benefits later on. Not to get too deep, but I agree with Aristotle, who said that the goal in life should not be happiness, it should be “eudaimonia”. In other words, happiness achieved through fulfilment.”David Goggins (Pull-up world record holder, Only man to be Navy SEAL + Army Ranger + Air Force Tactical Controller, “Fittest man in America” (Outside magazine))“Pain unlocks a secret doorway in the mind, one that leads to both peak perfo