What if church health wasn’t measured by attendance… but by engagement, unity, and love in action?In this episode of the Peopling Podcast, Kristi sits down with Peter Swanson, CEO of Love Serves International, to talk about leadership, burnout, and what it truly means to build healthy, missional communities—inside and outside the church.Peter shares his personal journey into ministry leadership and opens up about the quiet weight many pastors carry: isolation, exhaustion, and the pressure to do everything. Together, they explore how empowering people—not overworking leaders—creates sustainable growth, deeper connection, and real impact.This conversation is honest, hopeful, and deeply human. Whether you lead a church, a team, a family, or simply want to show up better for others—this episode will challenge how you define success and connection.About Our VIP Guest: Peter SwansonPeter Swanson is the CEO of Love Serves International, a faith-based organization dedicated to coming alongside local churches to equip believers for the work of the ministry (Ephesians 4:12).His mission is simple but powerful:to help churches become the hands and feet of Jesus—meeting the physical, emotional, and spiritual needs of their communities so the Kingdom of Christ can flourish.Through coaching, leadership training, and peer support, Love Serves International helps pastors move from burnout and isolation to joy, clarity, and sustainable impact. To date, they’ve supported over 4,100 churches worldwide.🔗 Learn more about their work:👉 https://loveserves.org/four12-group/What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy so many pastors feel isolated—and how community changes everythingThe hidden cost of leaders carrying 90% of the loadWhat healthy church leadership actually looks likeWhy empowerment beats exhaustion every timeHow to measure church health beyond numbers and budgetsThe transformational question: “How do I desire the good of the other?”How meeting felt needs opens hearts and builds trustPractical ways to build connection and compassion in everyday leadershipGet your subscription to Growth Day, like having World-Class Coaches in your pocket! https://www.growthday.com/referrals?via=h6l0rtKey TakeawaysBurnout doesn’t come from serving—it comes from serving aloneHealthy churches multiply leaders instead of depending on oneSpiritual growth matters more than metricsDesiring the good of others is a leadership skillCommunity is not optional—it’s essentialLove and compassion are powerful tools for transformationSmall, intentional steps can lead to deep connectionSound Bites Worth Replaying:“Burnout happens from working alone.”“Desiring the good for the other.”“How do I desire their good?”Chapters00:00 – Introduction to Love Serves International01:40 – Peter’s Journey into Leadership02:52 – The Mission of Love Serves International05:31 – Challenges Pastors Face Today07:48 – Why Community Is Essential in Ministry10:25 – Measuring Church Health & Growth13:24 – Empowering Leadership vs. Overworking Leaders15:52 – The Power of Love and Compassion18:32 – Actionable Steps for Deeper Connection45:51 – Outro#LoveServesInternational #churchlife #leadership #churchleadershipresources #pastoralburnout #churchhealth #peoplingpodcast #faithbasedleadership #empoweringpastors #communitybuilding #missionalchurch #compassion #compassioninaction #peoplingbook