In this podcast, Paul talks about how he is approaching his reverse out of fat loss, and why. He also discusses how this approach makes Eat To Perform unique. He ends the episode with questions from ETP followers regarding whether or not ETP members track calories vs. macros, and is it better to start in fat loss vs. the performance recomp phase? He discusses how eating more can be mentally challenging, and how the basic premise of ETP supports your health and mental health along the way.