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Why “Sustainability” No Longer Sounds Ambitious Enough


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In this episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Daniel Lawse, co-founder and Chief Century Thinker at Verdis Group. Our conversation ventured deep into the realms of sustainability and climate consultancy, focusing on how transformational change can be accelerated in organisations and communities.

Daniel shared fascinating insights into the evolution of emissions scopes, especially the rising importance of scope three emissions. He explained how Verdis Group assists businesses in navigating these complex areas through strategic planning and implementation, using a dynamic approach to adapt to continual changes in the environmental landscape.

We also discussed the unique roles of zoos and aquariums in conservation and the broad implications of their sustainability efforts. Daniel emphasised the importance of interconnected thinking and how short, simple feedback loops, modelled on natural systems, can enhance sustainability practices.

For anyone looking to deepen their understanding of sustainable business practices and the operational shifts necessary for a regenerative future, this episode is a must-listen. Dive into our detailed exploration of how businesses can effectively measure and manage their impact on the climate.

For more on Daniel's work, or to engage further with these topics, visit Verdis Group's website or set up a conversation with Daniel through their contact page.

The book Daniel referenced, Zen and the Art of Saving the Planet, is available on Amazon here.

Join us next time on Climate Confident as we continue to explore actionable insights and strategies for a sustainable future, and check out the video version of this episode on YouTube.


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