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Why Top Leaders Now Prioritize Creativity Over Efficiency


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In today’s rapidly changing business landscape, the leaders winning aren’t the ones squeezing for more efficiency — they’re the ones unlocking creativity. In this episode, Jason S. Bradshaw sits down with Dr. Natalie Nixon, one of the world’s leading voices on creativity and innovation, to unpack why imagination, curiosity, and Wonder Rigor are now the most important leadership tools.

You’ll discover:

🔥 Why efficiency alone is no longer a competitive advantage

🔥 How creativity drives faster problem-solving and breakthrough innovation

🔥 The Move–Think–Rest framework that prevents burnout and boosts performance

🔥 Why AI makes human imagination more valuable — not less

🔥 How leaders can build a culture that consistently innovates

If you want your team to collaborate better, innovate faster, and thrive in uncertainty, this conversation will reshape the way you lead.


🔖 Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to WonderRigor

00:52 Understanding Creativity in Leadership

02:14 The Bias Around Creativity

04:43 Defining WonderRigor

09:47 Explaining WonderRigor to a Child

11:13 The Importance of Doodling

13:16 Addressing Burnout in the Workplace

16:11 Move.Think.Rest Framework

21:43 Creativity as a Strategic Competency

25:20 The Role of Authentic Imagination

28:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts



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Website: https://www.figure8thinking.com/

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