In this episode of Selling the Dream, Ken Jordan and Joe Iredell sit down with Dr. Suzanne Vester, a naturopathic doctor and doula, for a powerful conversation about holistic health, leadership, and what it really means to help people grow.

Dr. Vester shares her philosophy on naturopathy, Western medicine, mental health, and why the goal of any great practitioner — or leader — should be to graduate people, not keep them dependent. The conversation explores preventative health, the role of faith and gratitude, ancient medicine, frequency therapy, and how mindset, responsibility, and pressure shape our lives and businesses.

This episode is packed with insights for entrepreneurs, leaders, parents, and anyone interested in personal growth, mental wellness, and building a healthier, more intentional life.

Topics covered:

Holistic health vs. symptom-based medicine

Mental health, anxiety, and dependency on prescriptions

Leadership lessons from healthcare and parenting

Why pressure is a privilege

Gratitude, responsibility, and mindset

Eastern medicine, frequency therapy, and natural healing

How great leaders help people outgrow them

If you're interested in entrepreneurship, leadership, wellness, or personal development — this episode is for you.