Jen Rivera Bell joins the podcast to talk about the beautiful intersections of her identity; being Indigenous, vegan, low waste, a mother, an activist, a lover of Mother Earth and so much more. Carly and Jen covered so much in this episode related to the current human condition. They dive into conversations about the ego, how there is no single issue in our world, food justice, and how we should normalize being wrong among myriad other topics. Jen shares the story of how a pet pig in college led her to be vegan and they laugh as they navigate the background noise of tractors throughout the interview. Most importantly Jen reminds everyone that they are whole and worthy of love just being being. Connect with her on Instagram!

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