This week’s episode is a two-part exploration of race and travel. In Part one, Shannon and Tamara chat with Susan Ho, a travel company founder who we first spoke to in Episode 23. And in part two, Tamara talks with friend of the podcast Angela Moore - who you first heard from in our popular episode about kids and travel, and who appeared more recently for Episode 35. Episode notes for Part 1, with Susan Ho: https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/travel-leisure/article/3005360/asians-who-travel-and-racial-stereotypes-follow-asian Also, Susan’s travel company, Journy, is still active during COVID-19, but right now by way of offering live, interactive video experiences with their experts in travel, hospitality and wellness at: https://experiences.gojourny.com/journyonline/?utm_medium=Content&utm_source=Homepage&utm_campaign=journy_your_way Episode notes for Part 2, with Angela Moore: https://soundcloud.com/user-88865630/why-we-wander-episode-34-beyond-the-black-square https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/black-america-racism-refugee.html https://fortune.com/2020/08/10/black-african-americans-leaving-us-moving-abroad-professionals-race-opportunity-careers/ (note: I mistakenly - and insistently! - referred to this in the episode as a “Forbes article") https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/30/black-us-diplomat-customs-border-protection-cbp-detained-harassed-325676 For our other episodes with Susan and Angela, check out: https://soundcloud.com/user-88865630/why-we-wander-episode-23-planning-a-trip-with-susan-ho-founder-of-journy https://soundcloud.com/user-88865630/why-we-wander-episode-7-postcard-travel-with-kids https://soundcloud.com/user-88865630/episode-35-travel-in-the-time-of-covid