What would make a proven entrepreneur—someone who’s started and scaled “real” businesses—say yes to network marketing?

In Episode 012, Jami Williams interviews Shauna Mucklow, a Midwest entrepreneur who had already built multiple companies with big startup costs and big responsibility… but behind the scenes felt strapped, shackled, and quietly wondering, “Is this what the next 20 years is going to look like?”

Shauna shares the honest turning point: she was skeptical, had strong opinions about the industry, and almost backed away the moment she realized the product was sold through a network marketing model. But curiosity got the best of her—and what she discovered surprised her: a publicly traded company, real customer-driven revenue, and the option for people to simply be customers (not forced into “pay to play”).

From there, Shauna breaks down what it actually looked like to build while life was full—two kids, another business still running, and zero extra time. Her approach was simple and real: 15-minute pockets, lunch hours, quick conversations, and a few evening hours after the kids went to bed. Less than a year later, she sold her other business and went all-in.

This episode also goes deeper than business—into identity, confidence, and what happens when you start outgrowing old beliefs around money and what you “deserve.” And of course, the fun part: the unexpected perks, friendships, and experiences that came with building alongside other people.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Why Shauna resisted network marketing at first (and what changed her mind)
• The “publicly traded + customer revenue” detail that flipped her perspective
• How she built with a full life (without sacrificing her marriage or kids)
• The internal battle: letting go of guilt and old money mindsets
• Why proximity, community, and personal growth become the real advantage

If you’ve ever felt stuck in success—or like your life looks good on the outside but feels heavy on the inside—this one will hit home.