God is speaking… the real question is—can you perceive Him? 👀

In this powerful episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez welcomes back Pastor Dustin Bates for a deep and timely conversation on hearing the voice of God, real encounters, and living a faith that goes beyond just “me and Jesus.”

They unpack why it’s not that God is silent, but that we’re often distracted… how proximity to God changes everything… and why both private AND corporate encounters are essential for real spiritual growth. 🔥

This episode will challenge isolated faith and remind you that your gift isn’t just for you, it’s meant to impact others. From the story of Samuel to life-changing encounters, you’ll see how one moment with God can shift your entire trajectory.

If you’ve felt distant, too busy, or unsure if God is speaking, this conversation will awaken your awareness of His presence.