What if simply looking up at a canopy of trees could help children feel calmer, focus better, and reconnect with the natural world? In this episode of Wild by Nature, Dr. Vian Sharif sits down with Ernesto Rodriguez, founder of Nature in the Classroom, a nonprofit transforming learning environments by bringing immersive tree canopy installations into schools.
A former school psychologist, park ranger, award-winning photographer, and certified interpretive naturalist, Ernesto shares how decades of research inspired a simple but profound idea: helping children experience the restorative effects of nature—even when they can't go outside. From the science of Attention Restoration Theory to inspiring stories from classrooms, hospitals, and even juvenile detention facilities, this conversation explores how reconnecting with nature may be one of the most powerful tools we have for improving mental health, learning, and human connection.
In This Episode
Why modern children are experiencing an unprecedented "nature disconnect"
The science behind Attention Restoration Theory
How viewing trees—even photographs of trees—can reduce stress and improve focus
The surprising research behind the 3-30-300 Rule
Why millions of children learn in classrooms without windows
How Nature in the Classroom transforms ceilings into living tree canopies
The connection between green spaces and improved mental health
Ernesto's remarkable journey from school psychologist to photographer, park ranger, and nonprofit founder
How photography, psychology, and conservation unexpectedly came together
The profound wilderness experience that changed Ernesto's life forever
Why children instinctively respond to nature
How hospitals, schools, and correctional facilities are using nature imagery to improve wellbeing
What neuroscience tells us about why our brains crave natural environments
Practical ways schools and families can reconnect children with nature
Stories You'll Hear
A kindergarten student's unforgettable explanation of how a tree canopy mural made her feel.
How a California school created calming spaces for students struggling with post-pandemic anxiety.
The remarkable improvements seen after tree canopy installations were introduced into a school for incarcerated teenagers.
Ernesto's life-changing wilderness experience in Yellowstone that forever changed how he understood humanity's relationship with nature.
How a visit to a hospital inspired work that has since reached thousands of healthcare facilities around the world.
About Ernesto Rodriguez
Ernesto Rodriguez is a school psychologist, photographer, entrepreneur, and nature advocate dedicated to improving well-being through nature. After serving at U.S. State Department schools in Colombia and Saudi Arabia, he founded ER Photo, with work featured in the MoMA Curator's Collection and exhibited at the Smithsonian. He later founded SereneView®, whose evidence-based nature scene privacy curtains are used in more than 3,500 hospitals worldwide, and Nature In The Classroom®, a nonprofit bringing nature-inspired learning environments to over 10,000 students across 20 school districts in nine states.
Today, Ernesto is a park ranger and interpretive naturalist on California's Catalina Island, where he continues sharing the restorative power of nature through education and storytelling.
Resources Mentioned
Nature in the Classroom https://natureintheclassroom.org
Learn more about Ernesto's nonprofit, classroom installations, educator resources, research library, and ways to support bringing nature into schools.
Research & Scientists
Dr. Roger Ulrich Pioneer in evidence-based healthcare design whose landmark studies showed that views of nature can improve patient recovery. https://centerforhealthdesign.org/about/person/roger-ulrich-phd/
Dr. Marc Berman Neuroscientist whose work explores how natural environments improve cognition, memory, attention, and mental wellbeing. https://lsa.umich.edu/psych/people/faculty/marc-berman.html
Dr. Richard Taylor Leading researcher on fractals and the neurological benefits of natural patterns. https://psychology.uoregon.edu/profile/richardt/
Learn More
North American Association for Environmental Education https://naaee.org
Catalina Island Conservancy https://catalinaconservancy.org
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