Wild Connection

In 1872, horses powered American cities. Streetcars, mail, fire trucks, garbage collection, and store deliveries all depended on them. Then equine influenza arrived.

In this episode, I talk with Lee Dugatkin about his book Nary a Horse Left Standing: How a 19th Century Epidemic Transformed Medicine, Animal Welfare, and the Modern City. We cover how the outbreak spread, why the medical thinking of the day (miasma theory versus germ theory) made it worse, and how the crisis helped put animal protection on the national stage.[Attachment]

Lee also tells us how a kid from Manhattan who knew mostly pigeons and squirrels became an animal behaviorist and historian of science

Lee Dugatkin is an animal behaviorist, evolutionary biologist, and historian of science. He is the author of widely used animal behavior textbooks and of trade books on the history of science. His books include The Altruism Equation, How to Tame a Fox (and Build a Dog), and Nary a Horse Left Standing.

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Urban ecologist and National Geographic Explorer, Dr. Chris Schell joins Wild Connection to explore how coyotes, foxes, and raccoons adapt to city life and how the neighborhoods we build shape not just human lives, but the wild animals living alongside us.

Dr. Chris Schell studies urban wildlife behavior and physiology, focusing on coyotes, foxes, and raccoons in cities. His work bridges animal behavior, evolutionary biology, and the built environment, using tools like motion-activated cameras, GPS collars, hormone assays, and genomic methods.

To keep up with Chris and his lab you can check out his website

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Marine mammal cognition researcher Dr. Kevin Woo joins Wild Connection to talk about what’s actually going on inside the minds of seals and sea lions — how they perceive their world, make decisions, and adapt to one of the busiest, loudest urban waterways on the planet: New York Harbor.[Attachment]

About the Guest

Dr. Kevin Woo is co-director of the Center for the Study of Pinniped Ecology and Cognition (C-SPEC). His research spans sensory perception, cognition, and animal communication, with a focus on harbor seals and sea lions studied both in the field in New York Harbor and through cognitive testing at the Long Island Aquarium.

And listen to an earlier episode with Dr. Kristy Biolsi back in 2021 

We like to believe humans are special, separate, and sitting at the top of some invisible hierarchy of life. But what if that story is not only wrong, it’s actively harming our science, our relationships, and the way we move through the world?

If you want to learn more about Christine and get a copy of her book you can visit her website: https://www.cewebb.com/

In this episode, I sit down with evolutionary biologist Joan Strassmann to explore the social lives of birds and what they can teach us about behavior, self‑interest, and community across species. Building on the previous episode with primatologist Joan Silk, who showed how long‑term studies of baboons reveal the deep effects of early adversity and social bonds on lifespan and fitness, we shift from primate societies to avian societies and take our attention to their lives.

Joan Strassmann introduces flight as birds’ defining “superpower,” explaining how the demands of aerial life push many species to the energetic edge, where small birds can lose around ten percent of their body weight overnight (every night!) and must constantly refuel just to survive. We also talk about surprising cases of rapid evolution in response to human environments.

A big part of our conversation centers on social strategies like infidelity and extra‑pair copulations that overturned the image of birds as perfectly monogamous and the fluid dynamics of flocks and roosts, where each individual is primarily pursuing its own self‑interest within a loose social contract. We also discuss bird personalities, status hierarchies, and Joan’s “slow birding” philosophy, which encourages people to pick a single bird and watch it for five minutes to begin seeing its individual story rather than just ticking off species on a list.

Throughout, birds become a way of thinking about ourselves: their stress, their negotiation between self‑interest and group life, and their varied responses to human pressure are all part of a broader, comparative view of social behavior that connects baboons, birds, gorillas, and humans. 

Primatologist Joan Silk has spent decades following individual baboons from birth to death, documenting how friendships, conflicts, and early life experiences shape their lives. In this conversation, we explore how grooming, coalition support, and even simple grunts help baboons repair fights and maintain social bonds. We talk about why female baboons have intense relationships with their mothers but more contentious bonds with sisters, what happens hormonally when a close partner dies, and how early adversity can make it harder to form strong social ties later on.

We also draw parallels to human life: bullying and social exclusion, the energy cost of maintaining friendships, the vulnerability of pulling back during hard times, and the moment when a relationship moves beyond tit‑for‑tat reciprocity into something more stable. If you’re curious about the biology of friendship, the psychology of conflict repair, and why our social worlds matter for how long we live, this episode is for you.

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Valentine’s Day has come and gone, but we’re relentlessly reminded that romantic love ought to be the most important relationship in our lives. But in this conversation, evolutionary anthropologist Robin Dunbar, Emeritus Professor of Evolutionary Psychology at the University of Oxford, provides a more nuanced idea.

We explore where humans sit evolutionarily between monogamy and polygamy, why pair bonding may have evolved as a protective strategy in large social groups, and why romance includes friendship and requires continued investment to remain stable. If we treat romantic partners as permanently secure family members we risk neglecting the very behaviors that sustain long-term bonds.

If you want to explore more of Robin's work check out a few of these titles:

Friends

Grooming, Gossip and the Evolution of Language

How Many Friends Does One Person Need?

The Social Brain

You can keep up with me on Instagram (@RealDrJen) and check out Wild Connection TV on YouTube where I bring science to life. And check out my Substack for more writings.

How do we live well in a world we cannot control?

In this episode of Wild Connection, I'm joined by Massimo Pigliucci, evolutionary biologist, philosopher, author, and one of today’s leading voices on modern Stoicism. We explore stoicism not as emotional detachment or passive acceptance, but as a practical philosophy designed to help people navigate uncertainty, loss, and moral complexity with clarity and intention.

Drawing on ancient Stoic thinkers and contemporary life, Massimo explains the four cardinal virtues as tools for everyday decision-making. 

Books by Massimo Pigliucci:

How to Be a Stoic

A Handbook for New Stoics (with Gregory Lopez)

Think Like a Stoic

Beyond Stoicism

Nonsense on Stilts

Massimo’s Substack 

Next week, Wild Connection launches a special series on love and relationships, beginning with evolutionary anthropologist Robin Dunbar, whose work on friendship, bonding, and group size helps explain why connection is not optional, it’s biological.

You can keep up with me on Instagram (@RealDrJen) and check out Wild Connection TV on YouTube where I bring science to life. And check out my Substack for more writings.

What if the building blocks of life are not unique to Earth?

We explore the five major revolutions that transformed how we understand the universe from Newton’s gravity and Einstein’s spacetime to dark matter, dark energy. And there are still unanswered questions that shape modern astrophysics. Along the way, Ersilia reflects on why curiosity, humility, and wonder remain essential tools for science, and how shifting our perspective beyond an Earth-centered view can deepen our sense of belonging in a vast, evolving cosmos.

From the soil beneath our feet to the chemistry between the stars, this episode invites listeners to consider how deeply connected we are to the universe, not just as observers, but as participants made of the same ancient material.

You can order a copy of Dr. Vaudo's book (and you should) here and keep up with all things astrophysics here.

In this episode of Wild Connection, Dr. Jennifer Verdolin speaks with author and essayist Tamara Dean, whose book Shelter and Storm: At Home in the Driftless explores what it means to live in relationship with a place. From the beauty and hardship of rural Wisconsin to the floods, fires, and tornadoes that test both landscape and spirit, Dean shares how community, storytelling, and attentive living can transform adversity into belonging. In this episode we reflect on the practice of slowing down, listening to the land, and learning from the species who share it with us.

Our conversation also reveals how small acts like writing a neighbor’s story after a flood or watching fireflies are opportunities for connection and renewal.

Keep up with Tamara Dean on Facebook 

If Tamara’s reflections inspire you to deepen your own sense of place, explore my Reconnect with Nature course on Audible and companion workbook Rooted in Nature, designed to help you rediscover your connection to the natural world. Next week, the journey continues with astrophysicist Ersilia Vaudo, taking us from the ground to the stars.

You can keep up with me on Instagram (@RealDrJen) and check out Wild Connection TV on YouTube where I bring science to life.