Analyzing the potential impacts of a government shutdown on Ohio’s economy and workforce.

Key Takeaways:

• 📉 State Pension Challenges: We look at the "upside down" state pension systems in states like California, Illinois, and New York. The hosts critique the proposal to add new state workers to Social Security instead of fixing the flawed pension systems, emphasizing a need for a sustainable solution.
• 🏠 Work Culture and Accountability: While discussing the broader shift towards remote work, Steve Palmer shares personal anecdotes about the benefits of in-person work environments, including his recent efforts to foster office camaraderie. The hosts argue that real accountability and teamwork thrive better in an in-person setting.
• 📊 Government Spending Scrutiny: How DOGE is looking at the government budget and spending, highlighting inefficiencies and misallocations. They stress the importance of effective fiscal management, drawing comparisons between local charities' minimal overhead costs and federal agencies' bureaucratic expenditures.

Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH.

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Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients.

Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.

Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard.

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