Two veteran engineers who helped build the modern internet sit down to
ask the question nobody in tech wants to answer: are programming languages about to become irrelevant?

Keith Adams (HHVM, Facebook) and Julien Verlaguet (Skip Labs, ex-Facebook) go deep on how LLMs are reshaping the craft they've spent decades mastering.

This isn't a surface-level AI hype conversation — it's a systems-level
argument about TypeScript's dominance, the hidden genius of linear types, why reactive programming will be the next bottleneck, and whether Rust's borrow checker is the future or a dead end.


⏱️ Timestamps:
0:00 — The big question: Do LLMs change programming languages?
1:17 — Why TypeScript is winning the AI era
4:28 — LLMs and C++: surprisingly good, but why?
8:47 — TypeScript might evolve based on what LLMs need
11:07 — The TypeScript security bomb nobody's talking about
12:36 — Code reuse in an LLM world: precious or cheap?
17:01 — Keith's war story: Replacing PHP at Facebook with Hack
20:55 — How your programming language shapes your thinking
25:03 — The "system programmer" mindset and why their APIs suck
35:21 — Julian's OCaml conversion: "It just worked the first time"
38:34 — Types as lightweight formal methods
44:10 — Linear types, garbage collection, and the Curry-Howard correspondence
55:39 — Reactor programming: the next frontier for LLM coding tools
1:00:07 — Advice to a 19-year-old programmer in 2026
1:08:15 — "LLMs are like steroids" — they amplify what you already are
1:13:47 — The ugly truth about big company engineering incentives

🎙️ Computers, Coffee, & Beer is hosted by Keith Adams and Julien Verlaguet — two engineers who helped shape the modern internet and have the war stories to prove it.

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Computers, Coffee, & Beer is hosted by Keith Adams and Julien Verlaguet — two engineers who helped shape the modern internet and have the war stories to prove it. 

Keith built the HHVM JIT compiler at Facebook, helped virtualize the world at VMware (employee ~80), and went on to Slack before founding Pebblebed, an early-stage VC firm for technically ambitious founders. 

Julien created the Hack programming language, spent years writing safety-critical compiler software for Airbus and nuclear plants, and now runs Skip Labs. 

Together they dig into the systems, languages, and decisions behind the technology that actually runs the world — told by two people who were in the room when it happened.

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